5.11.2000

(Meher Baba came and spoke to all. He blessed SNA for so selflessly giving her home as a healing centre, and said that she would reap the benefits of this goodness for many lifetimes. He said that very few render such service to the Lord. He also told PSW that one should not fear even God; then why does she fear them? The difference between her and them was only in the level of knowledge. He jokingly asked RDM if she was looking at his long nose. He said that NYD troubled him constantly to speak at her meeting and so he had come. He said that although she claimed to have faith in him, she constantly worried about her dear ones. Is this faith, he questioned. He asked SNA, calling her ‘Mara Mota Mai’, to say "Baba ni Jai’ and then heartily laughed that he had been able to make her say that. He told YJD that SYD and JYD were his children and commanded YJD to bring "his" children to meet him.)

Good evening, children. So the Master put you all in a good mood? My children, we will be following this format very often now. It is now time for this child to start admitting higher and higher and higher guides. We will first permit only those masters with whom she is familiar, and then, my children, in the future, you will be glad to hear, we will introduce to you masters your world has not even heard of but whose names will be on your lips in the near future. So this training of hers must start.

My son, (SNA) send her more energy as you sit near her. Today being the first time that some other person has come through her, her body is undergoing a mild trauma. We will, therefore, keep the meeting brief.

SNA: I have always felt a bonding and fascination for the lost world of Atlantis. Could you please tell me something about Atlantis, especially with reference to the crystal that was present.

The whole of Atlantis rested on a very large bed of crystals. There was one conglomeration of crystals which the people, I would not say worshipped, but drew energy from. My child, you would feel this bonding with the lost world, because those of you who are on this path have certain roots in this lost world. Now what do I tell you of that lost world? You cannot even begin to imagine the depths of knowledge which they had discovered. They had become so vast in their reach but as happens very often, they misused all those energies. My son, your world today has come so far in nuclear fission, atomic energy, medicine, but compared to the knowledge of the lost world this knowledge is like that of a baby. They had learnt that nuclear fission can be used to enhance life not only to destroy it. They drew their energy from the crystal, and as they grew in energy they sent back energy to the crystal. This constant give and take of energy made it so strong, that only a few could handle this large amount of energy. Remember, my son, even in your world, energy, a large amount of it, needs to be correctly handled. You can use that same energy to do wrong with. Unfortunately this is what happened in the lost world. Their own knowledge was their own undoing. The final stroke, my son, came when they decided that there was no being higher than themselves. That all that they needed was their energy and that of their crystals. This pride, my son, had to be controlled. And, my son, remember, the people of the lost world were not quite like you in all ways. There were differences in their physical formations. It is not that they looked very different, but their internal organs, my son, were quite different to your own. They had to be. If you, my son, were surrounded by crystals you would not be able to handle it at all. So, my children, the people of the lost world did not realise, or did not wish to realise (although great efforts were made to caution them, they did not wish to hear)…..and so they thought that there was no being greater than they, no power more powerful than the one they derived through their crystal. One by small one, the powers of the crystals were receded gradually. The more the powers ebbed, my son, ( and this is interesting) the more the powers ebbed, my son, the more the people started believing in themselves and in their own pride. Even then they refused to acknowledge that their powers were ebbing. It was then left to our Lord in one fast stroke to remove the powers completely. Which is what He did. And their bodies being so built to live on boundless energy, the Lost World was lost. But, if you recall, I said that there was one huge conglomerate…that was not destroyed. And it is that conglomerate, my son, which today gives you energy. All your crystals, all your minerals, all your gems, derive their energy from this one conglomerate. You can liken this to your soul deriving its energy from the Divine Soul. From the smallest crystal to the largest one you can ever see, all derive their energy from this conglomerate. If our dear Lord had destroyed even the conglomerate you would have had no minerals, and no crystals. And that would have been a very sad loss, because minerals and gems used correctly, at the right time and the right place and for the right person are very valuable aids to you. And our dear Lord, who is all knowing, knew that this conglomerate would be needed sometime in the very, very distant future.

Now another interesting point. Almost all of the population of today comes from the lost world….almost….and the sages and prophets of that time came to you as your sages and prophets. So you all came back to the point of origin and there was a very long period when there was no known physical life form, because now our Lord rebuilt the physical form in such a way to ensure that never again would a physical form be able to acquire and handle such spiritual energy( and it is spiritual, my son, never forget) of crystals. So there was a very long time, let us call it a period of gestation. And even then do not think that humans were the first to be created. Oh no. Life started in the sea again. And does that not make sense? Because that is where the lost world was. Life started in the sea, reptilian life then started.

I was amused that day, my children, when I overheard all of you talking of snakes. Oh, yes, I was present. I am never very far away when you have your meetings. So you spoke of snakes and whether it was just a superstitious belief that a cobra should not be killed. My children, I will not say that it is complete superstition, nor will I say that it is not. I would like to clarify here and tell you the truth about this. The cobra has always been considered the king of reptiles. You, my dear children, owe your existence to the snakes and also the lord of them all, the cobra. The cobra has powers that man has not yet discovered. What happens when a cobra is killed is that a killed cobra uses its powers to teach that man a lesson in the same way, with the same harm that the man caused it. The cobra’s energy, my children, is indestructible. If there is a cobra looking after a particular area while alive, even after its physical form has died, that indestructible energy will look after that area and the people there. But, as is true with all energy, when energy is attempted to be destroyed, energy will strike back. That is the truth about the cobra. And remember, my children, if the cobra is attempted to be killed not out of a deliberate attempt to harm, but out of a genuine need for protection of self or loved one, the energy will not strike back. What you do not know, my children, is that the cobra can hear and feel every single thought and feeling that you have. And when you attempt to kill the cobra in protection, it sometimes seems to vanish, taking away the need to kill. Sometimes when you do kill it, it is because it has given up its life. But when the energy is played with for the sake of enjoyment and destruction, the energy of the snake strikes back. This may not only be by the death of that person, but the whole family having to pay for the act of one person, and it can be payment in any form. So you see, my son, after the lost world and the period of gestation, came the reptiles. And because they were so close to the lost world ( and when I say close I am talking of thousands of years, but as a life form closest to the lost world) ….they came with the remaining powers of the lost world and that is why their energy is so strong. As evolution went on, you were the last in the chain and therefore the weakest. And yet you think that you are mightier than the small ant.

SNA: Is it the crystal power that causes all these disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle?

Of course. When the moon, the sun or any of the planetary bodies are in a certain conjunction (the conjunction need not always be the same) …..You must understand, my son, all planetary bodies have their own spheres of energy. When one energy sphere meets at opposite angles to another, with the crystal in the middle, the crystal releases a blast of energy . There is now nothing in your world that can handle that kind of energy. Whatever comes in the path of this energy will be destroyed and in such a manner that every small atom disintegrates. You will find not even one small physical form in existence. All of these small atoms then release their own energies, and so all these physical forms ‘disappear’ as you put it. And this does not take time. I will give you an example that you might understand. In the kind of science fiction movies that you like haven’t you seen how a physical body is able to move from one spot to another by disintegration? That is exactly how this happens. Do not think that fiction is FICTION. How do you think that the creator thought of this fiction? Because somewhere he linked with an energy that gave him an idea of truth but not the truth that you know.

RDM: Is this why the Sargossa Sea is completely bereft of life forms?

My child, is not quite the doing of the crystal. All the negativities that are released here have to be channeled before they come into the universe. For that purpose an area of the earth has to be designated. That is the area, my child. That area, my child, if you are sensitive, will make you scared because the sensitive person will pick up all the negativity. But the negativity will do you no harm, because that area has been chosen only to channel the negativity, but you will certainly feel them around.

RDM: Sir, why do all the compasses in that area go haywire?

Naturally, my child. Negative energy is the cause.

SNA: Sir, in the Bermuda Triangle why is it that sometimes only the people have vanished but the ship is left and at other times the ship has also vanished?

Child, again I have to remind you of the planetary formation. What kind of energy is it releasing? Will it affect only the human form or also the physical object? But the human form will be disintegrated every single time. There is no form of energy that the human form can withstand.

SNA: Sir, some say that the ships, etc. go into another dimension. Is that true? (Sir shook his head) That is really fiction?

SNA: Sir, what happens to their souls?

They come to our side. This is the death that they have opted for. And do you know, my child, that every single being who has disappeared thus has been a scientist on our side. They may not be scientists here, but they have all been scientists on our side. They have chosen to go through this experience to add to their knowledge, my dear child.

SBW: Sir, about the archaeological findings about the Sumerians and others that they were a race of giants or extra-terrestrials, could you give us some knowledge about this?

Not extra-terrestrial, my son, but different from you. Physically yes, because they were so much larger and some races, my child were so much smaller. So physically, yes. Remember, children, every few hundred years internal organs keep changing. Do you know that these two young ones, on first glance their internal organs will resemble yours, but they are already in the process of change. They will have a heart and a liver and kidneys and everything, but their functions will be enhanced, and all the little babies born, all have these enhanced internal organs, because they have to live in a world that will be releasing so much which their bodies will have to handle. Do you think our Lord will put you in an environment without any weapon? The weapons are always provided. So, my son, they were not extra-terrestrials, not from another planet, but there will come a time in the distant future, I will reveal to you about those from other planets. They are there, they are there. They are waiting their turn to help you, to help this planet.

SBW: Are they trying to contact us?

So many times, and in so many ways. Do not believe the lies that some scientists tell you. Contact has been made, has been established very firmly, but soon as this contact is made, humans realize how frail they are as a race, and this is a threat because if they were to spread this knowledge, what a different world it would be. Those very same persons who now control your lives would not then be able to.

NS: Can we do anything to help?

No, my child, because that contact has been made scientifically, not spiritually. There is no one here, or in the world, who has the spiritual know-how to contact them spiritually, and your scientific knowledge is sorely lacking.

RDM: Sir, I have been able to sight UFO’s.

My child, that may be true but you still cannot contact them. Your thoughts and messages are picked up but you cannot pick up theirs. And that is sad because they have knowledge to share that is very vast.

SBW: We have heard stories about humans being abducted by aliens and put back on earth.

Some are true. Just as you are at a certain level of evolution, all life forms all around are at their own levels of evolution. I am currently talking of the higher levels, but there are certainly those at lower levels and they may try to cause you harm.

PSW: Sir, some say that aliens are already there in our midst. Is this a fact?

Alien energy in the form of knowledge, yes, but actual physical presence, no.

NS: Sir, could you describe to us how they look? Are they very different from us?

My child, there are so many life forms, which one should I describe?

Are we writing a book on science today?

SBW: Sir, the cloning that is done these days…….

Very, very wrong. And that is why the earth is going the way Atlantis did. When you clone you think that you have a power beyond what you have. Why does one need to clone? Why not improve upon what is already there? Do you think that they do this for the benefit of science, or human nature? It is not. It is an exercise in ego, in pride, in trying to say that not only God can create life but so can I.

ERC: Sir, but only the physical body can be created. How does the soul come in?

My child, remember, sometimes we give everyone a rope so long that eventually they will hang themselves with it. Do you think we could not have stopped these experiments? We will not do that, we cannot do that, because it is their will which we cannot overpower.

ERC: Why does the soul occupy that man-made body?

Because we wish the experiment to be successful to teach man certain lessons. Our ways are strange but they have a purpose.

ERC: Sir, what about artificial insemination and so on?

Artificial insemination and test-tubes are all aids for a mother who cannot carry her child. That is not wrong.

SNA: What about animals on whom this is done? They have no choice.

Yes, my child, I agree, but even in this case if the animal does not suffer, it is not wrong.

RDM: Sir, isn’t cloning helpful for the preservation of species that are becoming extinct?

You can never preserve by cloning. If preservation is required, my child, there are methods easier than cloning. Are they adopted?

No.

Why?

Because of ego.

Right. So do not fall for these excuses. They are only excuses. Unfortunately today the scientific mind is so alienated from the spiritual soul and that is why these experiments. If only the scientific mind merged with the soul, overnight the world would be a world of plenty. And I do not only mean material plenty…plenty of love, joy and peace. But for that there needs to be a union.

We must leave now.

YJD: Sir, any precautions to be taken for NYD? You said her body would be in trauma.

She is already over it, my son. Have you been asleep?

Do not worry, my son. I know you worry about her. She is being looked after, and for a very selfish reason, my son. Because we need her to do our work, so you see we can also be selfish.

SBW: Sir, but I hope she will still remain my child.

That, my son, is in your heart.

Good evening, my dear children. God bless you all.

Jade Fire.