02.09.2001

Yukhteshwarji : Pranam.

Meher Baba :

Baba ni Meher.

(To Zafar) Kaem Husyo ?

Hoon sochto hato Baba ke tame aaose ke nahin, ne tame aiva.

( Zafar sneezed) Tu chhikyo nae oon nai aav?  (All laughed)

 Kaem cho, Baba ?

Too kaem che, chhokra ?

 First class, Baba.

Kai first class nathi. Kaem Baba ni saathae jhhoothoo ?

Su karu Baba?

Badhdhoo chhori dae. Bus, Baba ni ooppar chhori dae.

Haan Baba.

Kaemchhaev, Motamai ?

Silla : Majhama, Baba . Thank you very much Baba.

Tamhae aajae manae "hullo" nai kayoo?

Silla : Kaem bolloo, Baba, tamhae bijao saathae vaat karoch toe oon  kahn vachchae boloon. Thank you oo saarikaani chaev. Tamhae kaem chaev, ji?

Baba then communicated to the group in silence using only through elaborate gestures.

HLM (Silently blessed the group.)






Jade Fire :

Good evening, children.

My son (to Yezad), we have heard your plea. You dearly wish us to continue in your home. My son, no home will be big enough.  The place that you choose will be one that will allow you to spread our word to all who wish to hear. And though we know that you dearly wish that this meeting be held in your home, we will not be able to grant you this wish.

OK Sir.

No home, my son, will be large enough. And this does not mean that we are not with you. Continue with the same preparation that you make every week to welcome us. Do not stop that, even if the meeting moves out to another place. Do not be disappointed, my son.

No,Sir.

Questions.

Zafar : Sir, I have a question for your child, Nilanjana, who is not here. She is very concerned about the state of the stray dogs in Bombay, especially now that the municipality has decided to kill all stray dogs.

Tell her to have no fear.

Zafar : She wanted to ask you what she can do to help.

Tell her to have no fear. That will not be done.

Sohrab : Sir, the recent attack on the hospital in Thana..I would like to know if this was a completely planned soul mission for everybody or if it was an act of free will where people have gone astray.

Both. Remember, my son, when we talk of free will there is also a plan. Free will does not mean going completely away from the plan. So, of course, there was free will, but in every blueprint when a free will choice is given, the blue print will have several different pathways which will be taken, depending upon that free will choice. In this situation, my son, the free will choice and the blueprint were ...

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In this area of your earth the repercussions of this will be felt greatly. We cannot elaborate on this.

Sir, are you saying that more of such occurrences will take place?

Of this nature, no. We are referring to the consequences of this action.

When a situation like this occurs what is the best way we can help?

Son, we have told you this earlier. You all ask us how you can help after a situation. You are still not making an attempt to help the situation not to take place at all. That is help. There is very little, my son, that you can do when one pathway has already been followed. The help needs to come when there is a crossroad, and the help must ensure that the road that will benefit the earth will be followed. But, in a very large universal sense, my son, both the roads help the earth. One is easier for you, and the other may not be that easy. The earth will certainly achieve her desired goal.

Sir, I read an article that they are expecting a series of earthquakes in the Himalayan region.

Son, you were told that very, very soon you will face another major disaster. Where it will strike we are not permitted to reveal. When it will strike we are not permitted to reveal. But disasters in all shapes and in all sizes will certainly come. And once again we urge you not to consider them as disasters and be feared. Look upon them as cleansing. When you wish to clean a particularly dirty vessel, the detergent that you use has to strong, and the strength that you apply must be great. Children, this would be a right time to tell you about the blueprint of the earth itself.

That would be lovely, Sir.

When the earth was origined, as in all origins, she started at the very basic level of evolution. These cycles of evolution had to be completed because the earth in her blueprint has desired to reach the goal of oneness with the Divine Source. Now remember, children, when you take birth on a particular planet, in a particular universe your blueprint must always be in agreement with the blueprint of that planet and the larger blueprint of that universe. Are you all with me?

Yes, Sir.

And so these cycles of evolution continue. Because you are human, and that has been explained to you already, human beings desire to follow a path of 'going away' in order to 'come back'. Not all forms of creation have desired to follow this path of evolution. Some have followed paths of evolution where they do not ever forget their connection with the universe. And keeping that link secure they desire experiences. Evolution is always a part of experience. But human beings desired a different path; that the experience would be one which would take them away from the source so that free will could be exercised in the process of coming back to the source. Are you with me?

Yes, Sir.

Therefore in every cycle there have been, what you have called, 'good and evil cycles'. Now you can understand why there are no 'good' and 'evil' cycles. They just follow a pattern. It is only when the human race moved away that it could exercise its free will to merge. When it exercised this free will and came back to the Divine Source, it completed one complete cycle of evolution and the earth moved onward.
Now, in order for the earth to fulfill her blueprint, those humans that take birth must also help the earth. Now you may think that blueprints are deliberately made in such a manner that evil can flourish in order to help the earth. It is a natural course. As the earth evolves, so does the human soul, and in the process of the human soul evolving, (because this one firm determination was made at the point of origin that we will move away before coming back) the human soul must have all such experiences.
The first time that an experience of an undesirable (to you) nature takes place it is only that..an experience. But if the soul, after having this first experience, does not learn its lesson, and does not exercise its free will to move beyond, then that is karma. All experiences will naturally not be present in the very first life. They cannot be. Experiences are so varied and in every lifetime you take one new experience and others which are a fall back on your past. In every cycle of evolution, when the earth reaches a stage that it has reached today, when it is so close to moving on, all those souls, all those souls that need to come back to recall what they have learnt from past experiences, will take birth. That is why you feel that somehow wherever you look there is 'evil' flourishing. But that is meant to because those souls have desired to be born at this particular point of your time for a particular purpose. In their blueprint there will definitely be free will choices given to them. When an experience has already been taken for the first time the next lesson is always a free will choice. Because it is up to the student to learn whatever it desires. Is this clear?

Yes, Sir.

With this cycle coming to an end, the earth will move on and those that survive, and those that come on to that earth will come to experience completely different lessons. They will then come to experience their free will choice of 'returning'. Those are cycles of what you term 'good'. But it will happen again, because the earth has not decided to come to an end. She has decided to move on and on.

How many such cycles has the earth had so far?

The earth has had over 14,000 such cycles. And that is very few compared to the number she will have.

Sir, can we tally this astrologically?

It must. Every thing in nature, my son, must work in harmony. If she desires to do something and you all work in harmony with her, she will attain her goal. But if you do not, she will not. So everything works in harmony, everything.

Sir, one cycle in earth years is how long?

A little over your 2,000 years.

Sir, so are there seven eras, or what?

There are no eras, my son, only cycles. It is not that each cycle has been of exactly 2,000 years. Son, it is very difficult for us to tell you in exact time measurement, because that is your human mental concept. And your human mental concept as it exists now is so different from the human time concept of the past. We are just trying you give you some framework with which you can work.

Sir, earlier you had said that about every 2,000 years a master is sent.

Now you can ask yourself why.

To help the earth...

On its return journey. So that this reminder can help the human soul to exercise its free will choice.

Sir, but is there only one master?

Oh, no. There are masters sent all over. Yes, in the past they have been recognized as one, and if you recall we have told you that it has been determined that no one master will be present. There will masters amongst each and every individual group on this earth.

Sir, but if that happens there will never be 'one' world as there will be so many divisions.

Truth is truth. Yes, because this truth is communicated with the help of a human mind, there will certainly be some distortions, some misinterpretations. You must be able to look beyond that, and see the truth.

Sir, N and I have frequently wondered if the person we refer to as FJB is one of these masters. Would you elaborate?

(Sir did not answer but merely smiled widely)

Sir, when I was going through this cleansing..

You still are.

Yes, Sir. At that time I got what I think was a message. Is that true or was that delirium?

Do not ask this question now, my child. You have already been answered. But it is not time for all to know.

Yes, Sir.

Sir, on its path of evolution in its cycles does it mean that the earth has to come back to the point of zero again? Or does it evolve?

Of course, it evolves, my son. And in that evolution every 'good' is better than the earlier 'good' and every 'evil' is therefore more powerful.

Sir, you have said that you masters have taken many births. Were you a part of the race of Mayans and Incas who were so spiritually close to God?

We will not go into whether we were Red Indian, Mayan or Inca, but we have all had a very strong connection with the Divine Source. And with all our effort, and with all our temptations, we have been able to hold on to that connection.

Sir, but these races which were so connected, how did they get to be so proud that they finally destroyed themselves?

The human souls that came in then were the souls that had to come in so that the earth could move on. Son, human souls take birth at points of time when they will get the experience they desire. And when the earth is ready to go into its 'downward' cycle (it is very difficult for us to use words, because there is no downward, and there is no evil and there is no going away. But we are trying, so do not hold on to our words) Those souls who desire different experiences come at different points of time and their blueprints, as explained earlier, must merge with the blueprint of this earth.

Sir, could it be that some of us could be those high souls who have come to experience ..

The soul that has gone beyond a plane of evolution will not regress.

Sir, I would like to know if the Satya Sai Baba is the living master for this cycle.

The man you call the Satya Sai Baba is an extremely highly evolved soul. We will disagree with you when you call him a living master, because as explained it was determined that no one living master will be permitted. There are in your living human world, living masters who are far beyond this soul. We will only say this much.

Sir, Meher Baba was also called a master of that particular...

Child, you must understand, and all must understand that when you call certain humans living masters, if this term (and now I am speaking in general, and referring to no particular soul) has been adopted by the soul himself or herself, then that is a little bit of an error on the part of that soul. Souls, however high they may be, have the same struggle between the SELF and the EGO. Sometimes, in moments of weakness, due to the physical embodiment, they do falter. But that does not take away the significance and importance of the work that they do. There is realization; sometimes while the soul is still alive, but certainly when the soul is out of physical embodiment, and this weakness is worked upon at once. Sometimes this title, this designation, is given by those who believe, who have faith in that soul, who look up to that soul, who give the soul the respect it deserves. In such a situation when that soul sees and recognizes that it is through this title that the others will come to him, that it is through this title that they will hear the words he speaks, that it is through this title that they will finally merge with the Divine Source, then this title is deliberately accepted without question. But it is not due to any conflict between SELF and EGO. It is with complete realization that this is what another requires. Does this answer your question?

Sir does this mean that all the masters are what we call 'avatars'?

Every one of you is. My son, what is the meaning of this word? An avatar is one within whom the god spark resides and has taken human form. Are you not one?

Yes, Sir, I am.

Avatar Soli.

Sir, did you say my name as Soli?

That is your name. Should I have used another?

No, Sir. I was born with that name but I changed it later. But Baba also mentioned to me that he would call me Soli only. Is there any particular significance?

Should we talk about names?

Yes, absolutely, Sir.

Names, my children, are given by only one source. Do you know the source? Who named you?

Our parents.

Of course they did not. Your guides named you. Your guides will implant the name within the mind of your parents.

Sir, that was definitely the case with Sanaeya, considering that your child was under the effects of anesthesia at that point.

And under anesthesia, my son, her mind is not at work at all. She is in direct link with us.

Sir, in the case of both my children, my wife and I had the same names in our minds.

Now do you still wonder why?

No, Sir, now I understand why.

Sir, sometimes some names are imposed upon us.

That is what your mind is telling you. The name is meant to be. The word has vibrations which are very strong. When the word is constantly and consistently repeated again and again its vibrations get spun around you like a cocoon. It is meant to do this, because the name gives you the vibrations that will help you on your chosen mission. Now you can all have fun finding out what your names mean.

Sir, long before my husband and I married my mother-in-law had taken a promise from my husband that his first daughter would be named after her. How would this fit in with what you have said?

Sometimes, my child, blueprints are prepared long in advance.

Oh, my god, really?

So it wasn't an imposition upon you.

Sir, what about pet names?

My son, pet names can help or hinder you tremendously. A pet name in conflict with the vibrations of your own name can make it very difficult for you to go on your chosen path, specially names which have no meaning at all, which are merely sounds.

What about shortened forms of names?

Child, the best is always to have the name you have been born with. Yes, there are certainly times when persons change their names and seem to flourish. In a case like this, my child, it is when the blueprint is almost at a crossroad. One or the other road. But when you approach one to help you choose a name you must be cautious that you are going to one who has complete knowledge of the universal truth. His knowledge may not be conscious knowledge, but the knowledge that resides within will permit him to study the blueprint and give you a name that will help you go onto an easier path.

Sir, but when you change the name, is the changed name also implanted in your mind?

Oh, of course. But there is a completely different reason for that, my son. That reason is to bring up obstacles that will help you upon the path.

Now I understand about my obstacles.

Sir, I have four different names. Most people don't even know my real name. Should I insist that they call me by my real name?

We will not answer yes or no. You must make that choice.

Sir, I use one name as my stage name.

That is not your name.

But would that affect my career, too?

(Sir kept silent)

Of course it would.

(All laugh) How do I know what's right?

Sir, you've got to help me out here. I was born with Zuber and it was suddenly changed to Zafar. Now which is the one given to me by my guides?

You will follow the first for personal work and the second for non-personal.

Sir, how significant is the 'rashi'?

Very. Remember, my child, the 'rashi' will give you a clue about the name. It stays in conjunction with your astrological chart. But, once again, sometimes a name is given without any connection to the astrological chart.

Yes, Sir. In the west Sir there is no astrological chart. Then how do they...

They do not believe in that, and therefore names, my child, are given to them which are in connection with their astrological chart.

Sir, but when people are given four and five names, it seems so absurd.

The name that the person uses most often will be one that will help or hinder. And when I say hinder I am looking at it from your perspective.

Sir, children do not call parents by their names. How would that work?

Son, this is not going to affect your vibrations. The name that is used by others will affect. And again this is a mental conditioning, that children should not use their parents' names.

Sir, would 'Dad' and 'Mom' have more vibrational power because it is constantly used by millions of people.

No. It would have a vibration of belonging and a human relationship. That is all.

Sir, we refer to all of you as Sir. Is that OK?

You refer to all of us without knowing who we really are and so the word 'sir' is accepted by us as your mark of respect. So you can call us all 'sir'.

Sir, every time we think of you with love do you really feel it?

Child, if someone thinks fondly of you, do you not feel it?

Yes, I do.

Then how can we not feel it?

That means you do receive our love. How nice.

Sir, my real name is Shireen but ever since my birth every one has called me Silla.

You are Shireen. You are Shireen.

Sir, are you talking about the meaning of the word?

Shireen means 'nectar' my children, and it refers not to the nectar of the flower but to the nectar that lies within the soul.

Thank you, Sir.

Sir, I've been told that my name Arnaz means 'grace'. Is that right?

Are you graceful?

I would like to think so, Sir.

Then you are.

Children we could have a very long discussion on each name.

Let's Sir.

My son, your name has already been explained to you, and yet you do not allow its vibrations to help you. Your name, my son, means the ONE. Where is oneness, my son, in you? Repeat your name again and again. 'I AM YEZAAD' and let its vibrations cover you. You see, my son, unfortunately your name has not been used often. Your friends, loved ones, business partners all call you by names that are not yours. Can you understand now, how all these other names are helping you to learn to grasp oneness? Every name takes you away from oneness making you fight even harder to attain this mission. YEZAAD.

Sir, I always thought that was a mispronunciation of my name.
 
Sir, is Yezdi the same name?

Yes. Names have been changed in order to make them sound better to your ears.

So even Yezdi should be pronounced Yezaad?

Rightly? Yes. When it is pronounced in the way it should, the vibrations of the word will be felt completely.

Sir, I was called that in school. In fact it was the only time I was called that.

And how were you in school as compared to now?

Yes, Sir, I feel like going back to school.

The name, my son, is very important.

Sir, in fact, my father had worked it out through numerology.

Your father has a link which he does not consciously use but which is permanently residing within him. He is a man who has allowed both sides of his being to flourish, without any one side beating up the other. The reason is, his remembrance of the connection is strong and he has strengthened it as he has grown.

Sir..

Yes, my little one.

Sir, so many people have the same names. Do they all mean the same?

Yes, my child, they all mean the same, because to some extent all these souls have undertaken a similar mission. Your name, my little one, will help you to get over your weakness of not voicing what you feel and what you know. Your name helps you to have the strength to voice that with complete acceptance that whether it is accepted by others or not, your truth is still your truth. Your name will help you. The shortened form of your name, my child, is exactly that. It will help you shine brightly, bringing your rays of love upon all who come near you.

Sir, may I ask you a question?

Your name, my child, is not your name. Why have you taken on this name? This is not your name. Your name has the blue of the universe within it, and it is this blue that will help you to remember this connection and strengthen it, and you have taken on a name that has no meaning. It is only a sound. It means nothing.

Sir, what is her real name?

Pirojha.

Sir, could you go around the room and give us..

Give you different names?

(All laugh)

No, our real names, Sir.

Sir, while you are it, while typing the transcript I was thinking that each one of us could use a code name..

Why the secrecy, my son?

Sir, I thought people might not be comfortable with their names being used.

We leave that to you all.

By consensus?

Everything must be done by consensus. Or you can ask your leader. He does not like these tasks, so the way you can help him is not to do anything by consensus but to allow only him to take all decisions.

(All laugh)

Sir, can you tell us about my name Armaity? It has so many meanings.

Armaity links you to nature. It is the feminine side of nature and all the feminine energy is held in this one word. Now the reason for this name for you. My child, you try so hard to be strong, you try so hard to be in control, and you try so hard to develop the male energy within you when your strength lies in female energy. When there is female energy, my child, there is love, mercy, gentleness, compassion, and the ability to flow with one's emotions completely without resorting to the male energy which helps you to stop this. That is your name, my child.

Sir, my situation in life has such that I have had to ..

Your situation has been such that it has made you take a free will choice of moving away from your strength in order to gain a strength that your mental conditioning by the world has told you is real. That is what your situation has given you.

Thank you.

Children, if we go through each one's name it will take a very long time. We will go to a few persons and give them what you have called their 'real' names. What is 'real'? You are asking for names which will help you, you are asking for names which will give you easier options. We will answer you but we also urge you to remember that the names that you are using which have been given to you by your parents with the help of your guides, were meant. So do not stop the use of those names.

(To Kaushal) Your name is Kushaal. Kushaal. Do you understand its meaning?

No, Sir.

Find out and you will know why this name.

Your name (to Ernie) my child, is not Ernaaz. It is something completely different. It is Meher-Naaz. Do you understand? The glory of grace.

Then why was the rashi from 'a'?

To help you on your path.

Is Arnaaz a contraction of Mehernaaz?

Maybe. And the name is Meher-Naaz.

Thank you, Sir.

Your name son, (Sohrab) is the right one, but pronounced all wrong. When you pronounce words wrong the vibrations also gets affected. This child (Sanaeya) laughs when I say your name. Your name, my son, is So-H-rab (Sir stressed "H"). The vibration is very important.

My child (Sangeeta) you are Sugandh. Sugandh.

Your name, my son, (Siddarth) has not yet started helping you but its full import will be felt by you in later years. You also, my son, face the problem of this son of mine (Yezad). Encourage more and more people to use your full, correct name.


HLM:

Made some signs and movements over all.

We have cut from your path three major obstacles for each.

We have not done this as a gift; you have earned this. But, energy must be exchanged and this will be done by you. You must look, within your lifetime, for three important occasions to remove an obstacle from the path of another. You will not be interfering with karma because this is your return of energy.

Child, (Sangeeta) be cautious. Pray as you have been told, and do all in your power to remove all negative influences. Child (to Roxanne) teach her the use of salt.

Yes, Sir.

Your cleansing will accelerate. By the end of this year you may be very, very ill. There is nothing to fear. In the next year you will do very important work for us. You will be told this on the first day of the New Year. This work will take you beyond the boundaries of your present world. And for this work, my child, you must be clean. Time is short. Work upon your self more. You have been neglecting this. Healing others must not take up all your time. Surround yourself with sapphire.

By way of light, Sir?

By way of light.

Jade Fire:

Any further questions, children?

Sir, we were wondering about what you said about suicide never being part of a blueprint when earlier you had said that in the case of one boy it was.

Son, suicide can never be part of a blueprint in connection with euthanasia. That is when suicide is not part of the blueprint. Maybe you did not understand that so I will elucidate. The subject was euthanasia. And it was explained that in euthanasia the experience is cut short. Do you recall?

Yes, Sir.

When the soul decides for itself to cut short its experience it is suicide, and in this context it can never be part of the blueprint. You will not put into the blueprint that you will cut short your experience when it begins to become much larger than you. Do you understand now?

Yes, Sir.

Sir, you said my name was Kushaal. How do I spell it, with a single 'a' or double 'a'?

"A-A". And how you spell your name, my child, is not really important. It is how you say it.

Sir, is there a word or name that we can use to increase our link with you, apart from 'Sir'?

Whatever word you wish. For us the word that makes us feel most loved and accepted is 'friend'.

Thank you, Friend.

Sir, that may take us a while to get used to.

Yes, because your conditioning tells you that you must give outward respect. We do not mind that. We merely answered the question.

Sir, the other day we were discussing the format of the meeting, and wondering whether it was very important to have the soles of the feet touching the ground.

No, it is not important at all, my son.

Sir, but would it not give us more earth energy through the feet?

In this format of the meeting, no.

Sir, sitting cross-legged is fine?

If you are comfortable, yes. But we urge you not to move about too much. The movement has two hindrances. It takes away the focus of those sitting around and mental focus is so fragile. And second, and more important, is that unnecessary movements cause waves in the vibrations around you. These waves, like any waves, will cause a few imbalances. So you may take any position you desire but do not move about too much.
My son, (to Sohrab) may we suggest something? In a seated format like today's there are those who are regular and yet have touched the walls. It is not wrong, but in order to help them expand there own connection to nature, we ask you that wherever they may be seated, the regular sitters be asked to connect to nature's elements. My son it is not essential that they all be seated together. If a regular sitter is seated between casual visitors that should not break the chain at all. We do realize that as time goes by it will be difficult to fit in everyone and you will have to face seating problems, for a short while. But do try.

Of course, Sir.

Sir, a while ago when meditating I could perhaps see my third eye charka rotating but now I cannot.

Because you use the word PERHAPS. My son, you and this wonderful child of mine, (Silla) both, are obstacles to your own path. When you experience something you doubt it or you simply deny it, because the esteem within you for SELF has not grown. My son, my dear, dear one, your spiritual growth must be accompanied by growth in esteem for SELF. So if you remove 'perhaps' the third eye will shine in all its clarity again, because it is open.

Children, the time has now come for you all to be aware of the eighth and ninth chakras. From the next meeting we will start with exercises that will help you to be aware of them. We do not use the word 'open' because they are never closed, but the more aware you are of them the more you can maintain your link with them constantly. From next time then you will be given certain exercises which will necessarily be accompanied by certain changes in diet. These changes may be for short periods or slightly longer ones, and we urge you to please change your diet accordingly, because what we are doing now by making you aware of these two higher chakras is pulling the vibration from the very earth and connecting it to the universe, using your body as a conduit. When you are used as a conduit and if certain changes are not made within your body, you will not find this experience very comfortable. If during the course of these exercises any one finds any change, whether pleasant or unpleasant, my children, let me urge you, reveal this to us at once, because what you may consider pleasant may not necessarily be right. Little one, (to Sanaeya) you will do the exercises but with strict supervision. If you do not desire to them you may not do them. My littlest one (Jehangir) must not be permitted. He is completely in link with them already and any exercise of this nature will charge the vibration even more, causing an imbalance. His diet can be changed or not as you desire.

Sir, he wants to be on a fruit diet.

Fruits, my child, are good to only a limited extent. Fruits, especially those that release acids, sometimes cause electrical imbalances. They must not be had without strict control.

Be one with the light, my children.