11.11.2001
Mother Mary:
OM……….OM…………OM
The grace of Mary is upon all you dear children.
All: Welcome, Mother.
Thank you, my dear ones, for welcoming me into your circle. You are held close within my heart. Although I have not come before to speak to you, I wish to tell you that I love you all dearly.
Zaf: We love you, too, Mother.
Thank you for calling me Mother. I am your Mother and I am joyous to have such wonderful children. Each one of you is blessed by me. The grace of Mary is upon you.
Yezad: Please do come again Mother.
Eliyah:
Eli greets you all.
All: Greetings, Sir.
I will show myself as I am now. I will also explain this form of mine. (The form of an old, feeble man)
Vibrations are not rising enough (referring to the vibrations of the group. He asked each to do the exercise of raising the vibrations.)
(Eliyah then ‘expanded’ into an enormous being of very strong energy.)
Eli greets you all.
I cannot hold…….this form is overwhelming for this medium. That is the reason why I took the form of my last embodiment. Do you now understand?
Yes, Sir, we do.
(Eli reverted back to the form of a very, very ancient and feeble man)
(Eli asked Zafar to come close to him and cradling his face very tenderly spoke to him very softly and privately. He also opened his crown chakra by striking the spot many times.)
I will not come very regularly now. I was here for this son of mine (Zafar), but if you call me I will come. And Eli will be with you all every night. You can call me in whatever form you wish to see me. Thank you, your services were very important.(To Roxanne).
Eli blesses you all.
Thank you, Sir.
Sai Baba:
Sai kaa pranaam.
Pranam, Baba.
(Looking at Diana): Meri bachhi aaiee hain . Dur se aye hai, meri bacchi. Lekin ye meri bacchi mujhe bhool gayee hain. Hain na bacchi? Baba ko bhool gayee? Baba nahin bhoole. Baba to aa gaye. Meri bacchi ko gale lagana hai. Bus, isi liye Baba aa gaye.
(To Kaushal) Kyon, bacchi, jo Baba kehte hain oonka maanti nahin? Apna mun ka khelna samajti hai. Haina? Arre, tera mun kya khelega tere saath? Jub Babab ne hi tera mun le liya hai, to tera mun kya khelega ?
(To Dianne) Bacchi, mujhe yaad karegi, na?
Ji, Baba.
(With a huge smile) Meri bacchi aayi hai. Dur se aayi hai. Baba ko milne nahin. Lekin Baba aaye dur se bacchi ko milne. Aaj Babab bahut khush hai. Pooncho kyon?
Kyon, Baba?
Arre, ye bhi koi poonchne ki baat hai?
(All laughed)
Bus, khush hai. Kitne din ke baad aaye hai. Lekin yeh na samajna ki Baba nahin aaye, Baba hame bhool gaye hain. Baba to hriday mein rahta hai. Ek ek ke hriday mein. Mandir mein nahin hai Baba, masjid mein nahin hai. Baba oopar nahin, nicche nahin hai. Gagan mein hain, dharti mein nahin hai. Lekin Baba hai kahan? Hriday mein. Jo bhi hriday mein Baba ko jagah deta hai, wahan Baba gus jata hai. Aur ek baar gus jata hai to Baba nikalta hi nahin. Dheke maar ke nikalgo lekin Baba jayega hi nahin. Hai na Bacchi? Nikalne ka sawaal hi nahin.
Kitne bade ho gaye ho tum. (To all in the group) Kitne aage badh gaye ho. Isiliye Baba khush hai. Itne aage chal diye ho ke aab jub Babab ko aana ho to Baba bus haath lamba karta hai. Mere pyaare, pyaare bacchon. Jub bhi Baba ki yaad aaye to bus ek cheez karna. Ek chhota sa pav kisi ko bhi khila lena. Bus, yeh samajna ke Baba ki bhook mit gayee.
(To Dianne) Baba jaanta hai, bacchi, Baba samajta hai. Tera dookh Baba ka dookh hai. Baba sub kuch jaanta hai, meri bacchi, Baba sub kuch samajta hai.
(Baba then walked up to Dianne and spoke to her softly and privately.)
Bachhi, mein yahan pranam karne nahin aaya hoon. Tujhe gale lagane aaya hoon. Meri bacchi ko gale lagane aaya hoon. (Baba hugged Dianne)
Thank you, Baba.
Thank you kehti hai? Tu Baba ko thank you kehti hai? Pugli hai tu. Pugli. Pugli, Baba ko thank you kehti hai. (Baba hugged Dianne again)
(Baba then walked up to Ruki and Kaushal and spoke to them softly and privately.)
(Baba spoke very softly to Piloo and Roxanne)
Bacchon, yeh nahin samajna ke Baba aate nahin, Baba hamare sath nahin hai. Baba ka vacchan yaad rakhna. Baba ek ek ke hriday mein rahta hain. Mandir mein jaane ki koi jaroorat nahin. Apna hriday tham lo aur Baba ko gale lagao.(Baba spoke so softly that the recorder did not pick up every thing) Baba ka ashir waad sub ke saath hain.
Sai ka pranam, bacchon.
Pranam, Baba.
Jade Fire:
Good evening, children !
Good evening Sir.
(Sir joked) We had to wait in a long line today. (All laughed) But there is joy in each one’s heart. Do you wish to continue the meeting today? If you wish to stay with this feeling of joy in your heart and not continue, we will understand.
Ernie: We wish you to speak with us, Sir.
Is that what you all desire?
All: Yes, Sir.
Zafar: I hope we are not going to get all depressed after what you have to say, Sir. (All laughed)
(Sir smiled) We will try.
Zafar: Sir, just one small question before you start. Who is this chanting OM all the time, throughout the meeting?
The host of angels and entities who come with us. We have told you that now the circle is made by us.
(To Yezad) Son, you must now move very fast with my son, Sohrab.
Yezad: Yes, Sir. Please guide us through this, Sir.
What guidance do you require from me, my son?
Yezad: Sir, basically a suitable place where we can now hold these meetings.
Son, we cannot guide you in every small detail. If there is a place that we do not desire we will communicate that to you. You must choose a place that will be convenient to you all, that will permit this group to grow. Yes, there will come a time very quickly when even that place will be too small. But after that we will guide you. You must make arrangements for the next few months. There are a lot of people, my son, who have been made not to come and this must not continue.
Yezad: Sir, we will take this up as soon as Sohrab is back.
Today, before we start on a subject for this meeting we wish to say something to all sitters. Children, you must be able to read and hear not only our words but the meaning, and significance and purpose behind them. Many of you take the written and spoken word very literally and the true significance is lost. We have repeatedly told you that the medium of words is one that is very poor. If we could communicate through thought there would be no misinterpretation, but that is not possible at present. In order that you understand the true meaning of the words of all the masters, it is extremely essential that you cleanse yourself out with a good scrubbing. Growth is not possible, my children, and I repeat growth is NOT possible unless the soul that is held within this embodiment has been scrubbed of the layers of crust that have built around it. When others guide you, when other Masters give you advice and suggestions, it is very wrong to disobey. It is perfectly understandable that you may not wish to follow all that every Master tells you, but if there is no desire within you to follow what that Master tells you, you must not dishonour the Master by sitting within the circle where the Master communicates. If you sit within a circle and dishonour one Master, you dishonour us all. If you feel that there is a contradiction between what two or more Masters have told you……STOP. Please realise that this seems a contradiction because you have not understood the significance behind the words. The truth, my children, can never be contradicted. The truth IS and if you feel that there is a contradiction then you must, for yourself, go back to the words and understand their significance so that the contradiction is removed. If you make a genuine effort, but you have still not been able to, then do not reject what the Master has said. Accept it as a limitation of your own understanding. Yes, you may ask the Master to guide you through this limitation. Very often in this circle, you have sometimes felt that I have contradicted what I had said earlier and haven’t you then asked me, and when it has been explained, haven’t you then understood your own limitation in understanding? If this can happen with the words of one Master, it can certainly happen with the words of another.
You must understand my children, that mediums are not
infallible. They are not always right in their interpretation of our messages
and they do not always use the right words. There are many times when we
communicate with a medium, that a wrong word is used by the medium’s mind. Every
time an error occurs, we cannot correct it. It would interrupt the flow of
communication and so we allow it to go on, in the hope that the listener and the
reader will through their own growth, be able to understand the error and move
on. No medium, my children, I repeat NO MEDIUM, not even this medium to whom you
come so eagerly, no medium is infallible. Your own growth must therefore be the
understanding factor. If you limit your growth through rigidity and
stubbornness, if you limit your growth through a deliberate misinterpretation of
our words, if you limit your growth with constant doubt about the medium, then
you dishonour all Masters, you dishonour all mediums, and you dishonour
yourself. There is no medium who is perfect and there is no genuine medium who
is always wrong. Yes, you must certainly be cautious of charlatans but children,
we know that you have grown enough to be able to tell the difference. But when
there is a genuine medium, and you expect that genuine medium to be perfect
every time, your own expectations may let you down. Mediums are like you, they
are not different in any way. Why do you think that mediums must never have
moods? Why do you think that mediums would not be judgmental or opinionated? And
why do you think that a medium must always grow? There are mediums who
come to a point in their evolution, and who are very, very good mediums at that
point of evolution, but they do not grow further. You must not dishonour them
for this and you certainly must not allow yourself to think that you are better
than the medium, because you think with your little petty minds that you know
more than the medium. Yes, it happens very often, that sitters move on, but
every sitter must never forget that the mediums or mediums have helped in their
growth. It is easier for growth to take place, my children, when you have the
opportunity to sit in a circle such as this.
But do not for one moment become arrogant enough to think that it is only you
who grows. One does not require a sitting like this, one does not ever require
to hear an ascended Master communicate – one requires nothing. The only
thing that everyone requires, whether sitting in a circle or not, is a look
within,…….. with a long handled hard brush. It must be so hard that the pain of
the scrubbing must be MORE than the pain that you are scrubbing off. Do you now
wonder why, so few of you
are able to handle this brush? And once again, my children, there is no
compulsion. If you do not desire an inner cleansing that is completely
acceptable to us it and we will never tell you that you are not allowed to speak
to us or hear us because you have not the courage or the desire to do an inner
cleansing. That is your choice and we respect it. But just as we respect your
choice, my children, you must then respect the words of the Masters and you must
respect the mediums. Your free will choice of no cleansing, must not, MUST NOT
lead you down the path of dishonour. Do remember my children, that although you
see me as one ascended Master who has come to you, there are many times
when the answers I give you are out of the collective consciousness of all and
you do not know, which words are out of my spirit consciousness and which words
are out of the collective spirit consciousness. And when you dishonour what you
might consider are not my words, you dishonour us all. You dishonour your own
Guides, who are trying to help you.
Guides help you in many different ways. When inner cleansing is not done at all, or it is not complete, it is very difficult for the guides to communicate directly with you. So they use different mediums. Some may be animals, some may be human, some may be a book that the guide will put to you, and some may be a song that the guide will make you hear. It might be a movie that the guide will make you see. Guides are helping you every moment of the day.
Sometimes, a Master may ask you to embark upon a path, which may not be very pleasant for you. Once again, my children, there is no compulsion on your part to embark upon that path. You may not embark upon that path, because it is too distasteful to you, or your mind makes you think that the path has been chosen for you by the medium and not by the Master. Whatever is the reason; as soon as you make a decision to not follow the words of the Master, you must honour the Master by thanking the Master for putting forth that suggestion, by telling the Master that you are not going to be able to follow that path and then ask the permission of that Master, that ‘in spite of this, do I have your permission to continue sitting within this circle?’ And there may be times when the Master might not give you that permission. When the Master does not give you a permission like this, my children, please know that it is because the Master has your highest good before him. No Master has any kind of ego; no Master has any kind of doubt, no Master, will ever lead you through anything by force. But when a Master knows your higher good, with the permission of your guides, your Master will ensure that you follow your right path. So whenever you sit in a circle such as this, and whoever the medium might be, and whoever the Master might be, go with honour in your soul. Do not attend the circle in order to question, in order to trap the medium and the Master. If there is no complete belief in your heart, you must not go out of a sense of ‘let me see if I can trap this medium’. Do you know, my children, very often when a sitter like this comes within a circle, the Master is aware and the Master will permit only those answers that will make the sitter pleased that he has trapped the medium. And why does the Master do this? Because this is a clean, short way to ensure that the sitter will never come to the circle again. We look after our mediums.
Syrus: Sir, a person may not have reached a point of spirituality and therefore may have this disbelief and non-acceptance…..is that so, Sir?
Son, very often, when in the course of a spiritual journey you find that someone strays you must be very compassionate. The person who has gone astray has done so out of a deep need; a deep need for external validation, for external love, all of which has not come very easily. On a spiritual journey, my son, there is no external validation from us. We have told you often, my son, that we are not really interested in whether you grow or not. That sounds as though we do not care. No. We care deeply, but we do not cling to your growth. That is where our disinterest lies. We are not worried or anxious or disappointed. When we urge you to grow it is only because we can see the higher good of each before us. But if you do not desire that, we respect what you desire. And so having embarked on a spiritual journey, when one or more decides to leave, it is not a moment of judgment. It is a moment of free will choice out of a moment of deep pain. Yes, if that soul had continued on the spiritual journey the pain would have been dealt with, with our help. But the spiritual journey is a journey in the dark. You do not know where the road is. You cannot even see the destination. You do not, sometimes, feel anyone with you. And then you begin to question yourself and others on this journey. ‘Am I going down a blind alley and will I then collide into a wall? Let me turn back because I can see the light of external validation there and let me turn and run towards it.’ Son, in order to embark and continue upon a spiritual journey the only validation that one must have the courage to accept, is your own. There can be none on the path of the spiritual journey without this courage. If external validation is what you constantly look for then this journey cannot be embarked upon.
Syrus: Is this some form of regression, Sir?
There is no regression ever, my son. When you reach stage of spiritual evolution you will stay there. There is nothing that you can do that will make you regress.
Syrus: Then, does it mean that that person has not reached that point of spirituality?
Every person has reached some point of spirituality, my son, every person. You may not recognise it as such and that is again a judgment because this recognition has come from the mind. The soul will recognise that there is no soul that has not already embarked upon its spiritual evolution. From the very moment of separation, my children, the soul once again embarks on its climb to evolution, from its very moment of separation. So your worst criminal in your land has also reached his own point of spiritual evolution which you are not able to recognise because your mind judges his actions as good or evil. But he has reached it. And no ‘evil’ deeds as you will judge, none, will regress his evolution. Yes, karmic links might keep him there till he makes a free will choice of his own volition to progress. And there might be progress; there might be progress which you are unable to see.
Syrus: Sir, this disbelief or non-acceptance, is that also an experience that the soul desires?
In many, many cases, no. In most cases, my son, this is a soul that has taken a beating, and the beating is of the soul’s volition, but then the soul disconnects completely and allows the mind to master. This is not written in the blueprint.
Roxanne: Sir, then this is out of free will and free choice then?
Completely.
Yezad: Within this group I have come across so many like myself who question themselves, that others have progressed but where have I? This is also some sort of external validation that we require.
And you will continue to require this validation, my son, because you are still, to a large extent, controlled by the human mind. But this is again another instance when in spite of having this limitation you have still been able to ‘slip past it’. So this obstacle of ‘where am I’ comes up and instead of colliding with it, you slip past it and you move on.
Yezad: Sir, hence the ‘report card’ needed regularly from you?
(Sir smiled and nodded) And hence the report card that is given. And yet there are some who do not believe even the report card. They look at the A+ and they say ‘this cannot be mine’.
Syrus: Sir, but once a person has embarked upon the journey, how can a person then forfeit all this at a certain point?
Because the external were too strong and the soul was not strong enough.
Syrus: That means the conviction of the acceptance was not strong enough?
Acceptance is present, but the soul has no strength to continue with the acceptance. You are all aware, my children, that in very, very serious moments of your life you require a strength to continue and believe all that we have told you. Did you not question everything that we had taught when the disaster (reference to 9-11) took place? If your soul had at that time been weak, or you had been in that disaster area, the strength of your soul would have had to be so much greater. Not being in that disaster area, each one, including this medium, doubted every single word and lesson that we had taught. This medium shut her self off from all messages that we were trying to give her. And in fact, spoke to her husband that she did not wish to listen to any more ‘nonsense’. And, yet, the soul of this medium had the strength to recover from that. Some souls, my son, do not have the required strength. I wonder, if this medium would have had the strength to recover so quickly if she had been in that disaster area. And I say I wonder because, my children, the strength of a soul is not what we can even guess.
Syrus: Not even the Masters, Sir?
None. The strength lies within and no guide and no Master can ever be completely sure how much of this strength will come to the fore. Yes, we are sure with each one of you, we are sure that however hard a knock you may receive you will not completely stray away. But we are not sure how many of you will stray, and how far you will stray, and how long it will take for you to return. We can only see the growth of your soul and we can know that growth is certain, and with growth, strength and courage is also certain. But, my son, we do not know whether the mind will still become a master at some point, and not permit the soul strength to come through. Now you may wonder why we do not GIVE the soul that strength .It was the soul’s free will choice. How can we interfere?
But Sir, as humans and as parents we are so totally different from your concept of all this. If we find the child straying we try to bring it back to the path.
As a parent that is your earthly duty. And so you must fulfill it. But also as a parent, and as a parent on a spiritual journey, you must be also aware that a free will choice has been made and having done your duty well enough as the earthly parent, you must then respect the free will choice.
Yez: Sir you spoke about facing things head on or slipping around them. Could you talk a little more about that Sir, the merits/demerits?
How quickly the mind asks for merits/demerits and how quickly we have to answer that there are none. My son, in order to ‘jump’ over the obstacle, the soul has to have so much strength that it sees the obstacle before it, and is able to reduce it to the height of the hurdle which the soul is very easily able to straddle and then go over it. For that, a strength which is enormous is required. And if one has to do this with every obstacle, you as impatient human beings may find that it takes too long. And so you look for a little opening. And this opening you call knowledge. "Sir has told us this". And that becomes a little gateway through which Alice can slip through.
Oh, you must all read that story. It is a story which completely describes the soul’s spiritual journey.
Syrus: And then it comes to the point of ‘off with your head’ Sir?
Roxanne: Yes, you just confirmed what Sir has been saying……No Mind.
Read that story completely and this time, remember that the Master has put in, like a fairy tale, a story of great importance. And so my child, you become Alice and you slip past. But, do you recall the little story?
Yezad: No, Sir
Alice had to meet every obstacle. Whether it was the queen who raved and ranted and made Alice very, very angry or it was the little animal that kept going off to sleep and refused to listen to what Alice had to say, and again Alice got very angry. But every time Alice was angry, she realised that there was a lesson for her to learn. And when she learnt the lessons she was able to see the way out.
Syrus: But Sir, that means that this story was crafted and drafted by the Masters in the mind of the Author.
Completely!
Syrus : When my child once saw the vision of one of the Masters she said that it was 7 feet tall– are you all so tall , Sir?
Son, when you see a vision – any of you - you see visions of the Masters, you are seeing the physical embodiment as the Master desires you to see the vision. Very often, I have shown myself to this child (Roxanne) as man and woman and sometimes both together. What we will do is to permit you to see us, in that embodiment, in either male energy or female energy that we know you will accept. This child of mine (Niloufer) would not have accepted a female energy and therefore I showed myself to her as male energy. But that is not who I am. I am energy. In order for you to see a vision, you do not only see energy. Energy for you must take on male or female counterpart. And the Master and the guides know, which energy your mind will accept and respect. There are certain tribes where all Masters take on only female energy forms, because those tribes respect only the women and look down upon men. You are living in a society where the woman is not as respected or considered as knowledgeable and wise as the man. And however much you strive to attain equality, within each one of you, the conditioning is very strong. That is why our ‘embodiment’. Now why do we all appear tall? It is because you do not see us in physical form. What you are seeing is our entire energy and you will see us as tall, as YOU are able to perceive our energy. So she might see the energy as going up to about 8 feet, while she might see me as going up to about 14 feet.
Zafar: Why is it that thousands of years ago human beings were so tall? Why have we grown shorter in stature? Is this cyclical?
Through the generations, the human embodiment has become shorter in stature. There is a reason. As evolution grows and starts from its very bottom, the physical is far more important. Physical strength is encouraged and the body is made huge and strong. After the physical has reached a ‘perfection’, the mind is then encouraged to develop. In that cycle of evolution, you will find that the mind will develop in all spheres and suddenly, science and art and music and literature and architecture will all flourish together. With this you will find there will be imperfections in the human body that will creep in, because the chain of evolution has passed perfection of the physical and now strives for the perfection of the mental. This cycle of the perfection of the mental is more than half the complete cycle (of evolution), is more than half the cycle. Once that perfection has been reached, there will creep in a natural imperfection of the mind, where the mind will consider itself to be supreme and knowledge will be considered to be only that which the human mind can accept. This imperfection is essential because it is only when the imperfection of the mind creeps in that the evolution, now, of the soul begins. It begins the downward cycle of the evolution circle, to come once again to the origin.
Silla: Sir is this why we lost all these very huge animals in the ice age – they disappeared?
Those animals my child, disappeared, because the earth went through its own cyclical evolution and the earth would not have been able to withstand the burden of such huge physical embodiments. The animal evolution itself my child, takes place along with the earth, just as human evolution takes place and just as the human embodiment was so huge, so was the animal. And not only the animals, my children, but plants were huge. No one pays attention to the plants. There were trees which had leaves which were so big, they were as big as your one bush. And as the earth went through its own evolution, all physical stature began to diminish so that evolution of that kingdom could also continue on the same lines as the human evolution.
Zafar: Sir, has the earth also diminished in size?
We will take that up next time. And that you will find interesting because we will discuss the earth and her changes.
Zafar: Thank you, Sir.
HLM:
(To Roxanne) Work on this son of mine. (Referring to Jehangir). He will soon start on his work for us in unseen ways. Ensure that the physical does not suffer
Roxanne: Yes, Sir.
(He beckoned Sanaeya to come to him)You wanted a smile.
Sanaeya: Yes, Sir. I see you smile even when the others do not.
You do not see the physical form of the medium, but you see me. And that is why you see a smile when others do not see one. Your time is fast approaching. Yes, you are joyous, but you need to work for this. The desire is present, my child, but the effort is lacking
Syrus : May I ask a question Sir – last time you said to me the Ganesha dances. I did not understand exactly what you meant Sir.
Abundance is upon you. Be in joy – live in joy and let elation alone be the state you are in.
Syrus: Yes, Sir.
Sir commanded the angelic host present to descend and energize the group. The meeting ended after Sir had personally given energy to each one of the sitters.