3.2.2002

Yukteshwarji:

Om   Om   Om

Pranaam bacchon

Pranaam Guruji.

HLM just appeared, didn't say anything.

Good evening children.

Good evening Sir.

As explained last time four Masters will communicate through this one instrument. Your questions will be addressed to all in general and whichever master desires to answer will do so. The main discourse will still be conducted by me, till as long as this child is able to easily accept all four energies simultaneously. The cornerstones are asked to be very vigilant as at certain points of time, there may be a conflict of energies, as even our energies differ in vibrations just as yours does. We urge you to recall that the child is not to be touched.

Sai Baba

Sai ka pranaam

Pranaam Baba.

Sai yehi kehena hai, ki yeh duniya ek aalishaan makaan hai. Itna bada makaan ke bus job hi aata hai apnay aap ko kho detaa hai.  Yeh makaan alishaan tohai, lekin, bacchon, yeh makaan aisa bhi kar deta hai,  inkee havaa aisee hai, ki bus, jo bhi suchh hai  usseh bhoola dayta hai. Aur iss havaa may jeena to hai.  Lekin kya iss havaaii may aap apnay aap ko bhoola dengay ?  Ab tuk to yeh makaan kay darwaazay bandh thay.  Lekin kooch hi haftay pahaylay, yeh darwaazay khool gayay.  Aur ab, jo havaa ander aati hai usme ek mithaas hai.  Pur jub hava makaan may aati hainn tub kabhi kabhi yeh mithaas kadvahat may badal jaati hai.  Jo makaan may reheta hai, unki yeh jimmaydaari hai, ke yeh mithaas ko mithaas hi rehena de, kyonki bacchon, jo kadvaavath hai, wo havaa ki kadvaavath nahi.  Wo aap ki hai.  Makaan kay darwaazay to khool gayay, lekin kya aap may itnee shakti hai, ki aap yeh makaan kay darwaazay paar kar kay, ek doosray makaan may rehene aayengay? Hoga, yeh bhi ho, pahalay ek ek karkay bahaar jaaengay, aur jab jo ander hai, woh dekhengay ki baahaar to bageecha hai, mithaas hai, phool hai,   saundariya hai, to who bhi aayenge. Lekin aap sub ko, mai ek jimmaydaari dena chahaataa hoon.  Ki pehla kadam bahar aap hi rukhiye. Aap   dar kay maaray andhar nahi rehenaa. Sai ka haath pakadkar darwaazay tak aaiye. Dekho bahaar oojalaa hai, dekho bahaar  shaan hai, apni shaan . Baba aap keh saath bahar nahin aa sakte. Baba to bus darwaazay tak tumhe le aata hai. Ooskay baad Baba hat jaayega.  Aur bahar to  apnay do pairon per hi chalnaa hai.  Lekin Baba nyota densaaya hai. Aap svikaar karay ya na karay, aapki murzee hoti hai.

Jade Fire: 

 
Yes, children, what would you wish us to discuss today?

Sir, recently astro-physicists and scientists have said that our Universe, our Galaxy is moving away from the other galaxy at a fast rate and some say that we are approaching other galaxies at a fast rate and we will merge Sir. Would you kindly explain about that?

There will be a universal merging. But not in this near future. The day will come when all that has separated must become one. But it cannot come now. It can come only when the differences are only physical. When the spiritual differences of all have completely dissolved.  And that time is far away. But it is certain.

Does that mean that the galaxies are all moving towards each other Sir?

They must. And if they come close to each other, when energy differences are still very, very strong, when they come together there will be a collision and not a merging.

I want to know something about twin souls and if they exist. And if there is a soul, what is the origin of the soul and how many counterparts does the soul have?

To answer this child, we will have to repeat a lot of what we have said and we are ready to do this, if have the consent of all.

Yes Sir.

Child, your question was framed a little incorrectly. You started with twin flames and then you wanted to know the origin.  You must first know the origin of the soul and then all else follows naturally.

I take you back to a time when you did not exist. I take you back to a time when there was nothing but the great energy of light. From this great energy of light, came the different worlds that you know. Each world is a part of this same light energy. This part moved away from the main source and yet did not separate completely.  Between the parts that moved away and the main source were cords of silver light through which energies were exchanged, through which energies flowed one into the other, from one world into another and from one world into the main source, and from the source into all the different worlds. And so there was now the large infinite source of light and there were smaller sources of light that were constant, unending, ever-changing. And this was the difference between the source and the part that moved away.  The source is unchanging. It is constant. It never changes its composition but it made a gift of ever-change to the part that moved away. This gift permitted the parts that had moved away to grow as they desired. They were given the freedom to be their own source of light, their own energy fields and their own sparks of energy. One such world was Earth.

And the light that constituted the Earth began changing, merging, breaking away, coming together again, spiralling sometimes fast and sometimes slow. And in this spiralling, the light changed itself into physical matter and with physical matter came Earth, Water, Plants, Insects, Animals.  In every creation this light was infused. The gift of change that the divine source had given all the worlds was gifted again to every part that emerged.  So the light that was vast began to experience itself in so many different forms, in so many different worlds, and each part was still connected by a silver light to the divine source.  And each part given the gift of change, the gift of growth. And each part then began to experiment with this gift given, and the plant kingdom changed itself, so many times, into so many different forms, as did the insect, as did the animal. And when all had experimented, there came a short period of rest when there seemed to be no change, as though each had come to a point and did not know where else to go and were waiting for another creation, whose growth process would enable their own growth and still further change. And this new creation was called 'human'.  And the human was created, like all, from the spark of light which again was gifted with change, but because this creation came after a process of a growth of other creations, the experiences of others, the evolution of others, a further gift was given to this new creation. And this further gift is called 'free will'.  It was not really a second gift given.  It was only a refinement of the first gift.  It gave the human the power to create himself in whatever way, direction, manner, form that he desired. And the human kingdom started and though the first humans resembled you, but did not look like you completely.  There were so many differences. Their forelimbs were so much longer and came to their knees or even below.  Their bodies were composed differently and their emotional bodies were still very raw. And this creation used the gift of change and free will to experiment with different body structures and finally reached a structure that was satisfying.  But within each structure it infused yet another spark of that same light of the divine. Isn't it wonderful
that the divine light can be in so many ways and yet is complete in itself?   That divine light was the soul.  That divine light is the soul.  That divine light exists in all; not only in the human but in water, in air, in plant, in animal, in fish, in insect, flower fruit and tree, in all.   And it must because this spark of light is joined to the divine light by the silver light. It is this spark that gives you energy that this physical structure requires to maintain its form. But let us not forget that the gift given to the human being was a refinement. It was refined in order to include within it the element of free will.  This free will gave the human a right to create himself. And how did he choose to create himself? He chose to create himself by a process of trial and error.  By learning and discarding or learning and accepting.  And when deciding upon this course, it seemed to be a course that would work, because all experiment follows a trial and error method. Testing the ground, and growing from those experiences. That process of growing through trial, that process of learning and discarding, that process of learning and acceptance, was chosen by you and yet you fear it when you face it. Because that process involves some very unpleasant experiences that you go through. As the soul evolves, as the soul can overcome this process of constant learning and discarding, as it becomes closer with the process of merging and accepting, it moves into a different dimensional world, and it is then that soul having overcome its own physicality of form can then begin to create itself in different forms. It has to overcome one physical form before it can up the responsibility of many. When it has overcome its physical form, in all its weaknesses, it has then has the freedom to move away from this world you call the Earth if it so desires. It then has the freedom to merge with other worlds, it has the freedom to move from one world to another, easily, because it has now experienced itself completely as a spark of light and who can restrict a spark of light?  In its journey the soul has experiences with so many different souls, some of which are in several respects like the personality and the character traits of that one soul. These like souls come together in a bond that never breaks. Just like you, dear ones, gravitate towards those who are like you in thought, in action, in behaviour, and definitely in vibrations.  When souls come together, and constantly strive to be together lifetime after lifetime they form bonds of love which are unbreakable. Those are what you call soul-mates.  But you erroneously think soul-mates are those who love you deeply in this physical incarnation. When you are very, very close to someone who is so much like you, you say ‘this is my soul-mate’. The soul may be your mate, your friend,  but your truest soul-mate is one who is ready to come into a physical incarnation, who is ready to come before you with all love and give you the most unpleasant experience and lesson. That is your soul-mate, who has desired, for a while, to take on a physical form that will place a very thick veil of forgetfulness upon this soul-love and who will come to you in this physical incarnation, somehow causing you the greatest pain, the greatest anger and all for one reason alone: to help you to grow. When you talk of twin flames, this is again an erroneous myth. All souls are twin flames. How can they not be? They are all exactly alike.  Yes they take on through their journeys in various lives, they take on different character traits, but that does not change the composition of the light. In their changeability there is still a constancy of the divine light and in their changeability there is yet another refinement.  With every different incarnation the soul can change its personality. Character traits remain the same but the personality differs. Do you have any questions my child?

No Sir.

Sir, in one of the meetings earlier, you had talked about how we have changed physically and how the babies today have a different physical and emotional make-up. Can you tell us a little about how they differ from us?

The physical difference is hardly present.  The difference lies in their composition in the channels of energy. You have already been told that you have 7 main channels and 144 smaller ones.  The ones that are being born are being born with 10 main channels and 1144 smaller ones.  They have a complete coverage of energy network. Every moment they receive spiritual energy which is over 100 times the volume you receive. but except for the 7 and the 144 that you have,  the others that they come with, are so sensitive to environment that they close immediately as soon as there is physical stress laid by the environment. And that is why we constantly urge you that the children of today must be helped to grow into strong beings of light. Once these channels get a strength of their own, then external pressure will not be able to close them.  But as adults you HAVE to provide the right physical environment.

(Sir jokingly made a two-finger sign to Zaf to which Zaf said: No two questions, just one! (Everyone laughed) What about the theory of the evolution of the species - did we not come from Apes?

 
Do you feel like the ape?  (Every laughed heartily)

No, but there are many similarities between Chimpanzees, Orang-Utans .. . . genetically also .  

And there is reason. They evolved to that level just before the creation of human. The missing link that all scientists have been trying to find will never be found because there is no direct link. It is a different evolution and species, and creation.  Yes, what the Light did, was to look at the last experiment, to learn from its last experiment, to discard what it found lacking and then to evolve a completely new creation. The first form of this new creation in physical structure, as you call genetic, although that is not the right word, in physical structure the first form of this creation was to a certain degree similar. But the creation and the change did not stop with the physical form.  The important change was made in the spiritual composition of this form, much like, my son, much like the change in the children of today.  But at present, a physical change was not warranted, as this physical structure can accommodate the spiritual energy change. But the spiritual energy change from 'simian' to human could not have been accommodated in a completely ape-like physical structure and therefore, the structure too had changes.  What was also evolved from experimentation was 'free will'.  It might surprise you to know my son that the first 'free will' experiments were done with apes, not humans. It was refined with the human creation.

We will answer this in detail if my son has no further questions.

Sir, just a tiny question. Sir, does this mean that the first Human just landed on Mother earth or was he born on earth to a simian and then his physical started to change.

Yes he was born.

Thank you, that's all.

Sir, did it take place in what we call ‘Africa’?

It took place all over the world. That is why, if you go back to the very ancient cultures of all that you call the continents, and do recall that there were no continents, so there was no Africa….  All cultures, the very, very, very, very primitive ones, will all be alike.

Are there further questions on this subject before we move on?

Can I go back to what you discussing about the soul which I find difficult to understand. You said the soul can change personality but not character traits. Would you please explain?

I certainly will, my child. The personality that you take on is different in different incarnations. For example, in this personality you may be a very lively, high spirited, sociable, quick at physical intellect. Your personality also might contain a certain ego, a putting down on others or it might include an openness and gentleness. Your character is what you have evolved with every incarnation.  This character makes you either strong in your ability to withstand adversity, or weak. It makes you appreciate humour, or it makes you serious and sombre. So these are SOUL characteristics and the outside personality is what you have taken as a garb for this incarnation. Is that clearer?

Yes, Sir.

Sex, and is it only for procreation? No, not in your human species. Why it is taboo is a physical manifestation of how the human being has evolved. How it has taken upon itself false ideologies which the physical mind of others have put forth and which they have accepted, without any question. To understand this subject, it is essential to understand what you call sex. The human creation was made, do recall, after a complete range of experimentation.  And this experimentation led the Light to make a further change in the human creation to be able to express soul-love in every form possible.  So sex, yes, although it is an extremely important biological tool for pro-creation, it was not only meant for that. It was to be used as a physical expression, as a physical manifestation, of the soul-love shared by two. This was possible and existed in all cultures. And then came the age of Science, reasoning and the analytical mind. And with the age of science and reasoning, came ‘mental’ morals which were forced upon the human society. When any control is to be wielded, the one you desire to control must be forced to behave in a manner that is comfortable to you. And that is what was done. If soul-love was allowed to flourish, the control would not have been possible. So it had to be stopped. And sex became a dirty word and a dirty action and along with these mental morals came the other man-made institutions like marriage. Marriage cannot be forced onto two. Marriage is a natural soul-bonding of two. How can it be made into a structure and how can another outside of this, tell you that this is the way you should behave within your marriage? With marriage, sex became even more taboo. And human beings were told that this act becomes holy and sacred when practised with the one you call husband or wife.  It becomes unholy when practiced with another. If marriage was not again controlled, but it was left to be what it was naturally meant, a natural soul bonding, do you think that anyone would have to tell the two souls that sex with another is taboo?  The two souls in their bonding would never need to look outwards. And sex would stay pure and a joy as it was always meant to be. And then the human mind decided on yet another restriction. The restriction was that it must be enjoyed only by one man and one woman. The universal truth that sex was only the physical manifestation of soul- love was lost and importance was given to the physical structures.  And those who gave these physical structures and those who blindly accepted them, did not question what is the human body? Is there something beyond just the body?  When these taboos are removed, people fear, again due to the limitation of the physical mind, they fear that immorality will flourish.  That man will become like an animal.  But do you know that, in several, several species of animals, there is a constant bonding, that between two without the structure of marriage?  And if this is so, why should man the not be like an animal?  Do you think that your species is worse instead of better?

If we gave you a room full of your favourite goodies to eat and gave you the complete freedom to have as much as desired, do you think you would be able to even go through half the room? A quarter? A tenth? A fiftieth? How much do you disrespect the soul, and how much is this really the cause of all that you face today?  If one desires to have sex indiscriminately with any and every, who are you, and who are we, to sit in judgement?  Without knowing the life course of another human being, without knowing the lessons that the human being has opted to learn, without knowing what these lessons will result in discarding and in accepting, how can you pass judgement ?  And any moral restriction is only a judgement passed by you and disguised in polite acceptable terms of morality. And now I put another question to you: If it is only this forced moral restriction that keeps you from not practicing sex indiscriminately, then is it not time to look within yourself and see yourself for who you really are?  Why is it that only FEAR is making you ‘tread the line’? And why have you lost all your strength and allowed another to draw that line for you? And what follows is, why have you given up the respect that you should have for your soul, to know that you have the strength and the wisdom to draw that line and to tread it yourself.

Sex is also used, when used correctly, as an excellent release of the Kundalini energy. You have a lot to learn from primitive cultures and one great error of your learning is this.  You call them primitive, but they were more connected with divine light than you are. And for your own growth it would be useful if you could learn the knowledge that they have left behind although it is sad to reveal that so much of   what they have left behind, has been presented to you completely misinterpreted, because the truth behind their actions has not been understood.   And so you use the word for them, and you call them ‘barbarian’ and that word makes you feel superior.  And yet, that same barbarian had knowledge of the universe. Without ever being he understood it because the knowledge was within him. And were you all not barbarian in some incarnation and then can you not go back and access the truth that you knew then but with your intellectual, analytical, logical, reasoning mind has forced you to forget? 

Questions on this subject.

We have already mentioned that, my son.  When you use the word 'deviation', when you use the word 'norm' my son, whose norm is it?  Should your norm always be another’s?  If that was so, when the Light decided to experiment with human creation, would it have given it the refinement of 'free will’? If you can all, for once accept the completely that each one's life course runs apparently in a different manner, and yet has the same destination as your own, you will not turn round to judge the life course taken by another.  You speak of homosexuality and you see it as a deviation from the norm, and I say, it is the norm set by you and there is no deviation. Only YOU can deviate from YOUR norm. Another merely follows his own.  It is an experience taken by a life course and none of us are here to judge. You speak of sexual abuse and we tell you once again there is no judgement. My son, no experience, we repeat, no experience takes place without the complete consent of both the higher souls involved in the act.  Again you judge it as wrong because the physical mind has set down 'norms of morality' to be followed. Let me take you back again to how these norms of moral guidance came into existence.  In every culture there were those who were looked up to, who were paid respect, because their link with the universal knowledge was greater.  And this was deliberately so, because every culture, just as you own, needs those to guide them to on the path set by your earth. These respected ones of society merely spoke to the others of universal truth and permitted them to make decisions on their own. But when they were asked specifically for guidance, they would give the guidance from their own view point and once again it was only as guidance, it was never a restriction or a compulsion. And why was it not so, because in those primitive cultures there was no need to control. Each one lived harmoniously with the other and with nature. And then the human, physical mind grew, as per the earth’s blueprint, and as it evolved it knew that in order to force ‘my’ truth upon another, I must control the other.  And Priests then came into being. And they crowned themselves, sometimes very literally, with crowns of wisdom and each one was made to feel that only the Priest knows best. And in order to control more and more, the concept of right and wrong, good and evil, heaven and hell, paradise and purgatory were generated out of the intellectual mind and they tricked society into believing these.   And each individual then decided, again with the physical mind, that ‘I must follow. I must not question. In fact I must ensure that all others around me also follow or I will condemn.’ And they gave a word to this freedom to condemn and they called it 'moral restriction'.  Now you wonder, is Jade Fire advocating that we all live dishonestly, meanly, 'open sex'? That is the greatest fear. Even dishonesty can be accepted, but 'sex'? NO!! No children, I am not asking you to lead any other life, but your life that you have charted for yourself and live it without guilt, without any burden of regret, live it joyously.  So that when you review all the lessons you have learnt, you   do not wish to discard any experience, you wish to accept them all and make them a part of yourself so that from this acceptance you know grow further. And the soul knows only one true destination: the destination of truth, of love, of peace, of Light. That is the destination.  Do not make the mistake, of looking at the life course and thinking that the destination is not the same as yours. Your destination and the destination of a murderer is the same.   He has decided one course and you have decided on another. That is all. And he has made his free will choices and you have made yours. That is all. And he is growing and evolving and you are growing and evolving and that is all. And there is only point of unity and that is ALL.

Sir, what about the children who are victims of paedophiles, or women who are victims of rape? Can you tell them that ‘you have chosen this life course so it if fine’?

No, you can not tell them that at first. NO. There must be a foundation of spiritual truth that must be gently laid, and when that foundation is laid, that victim will no longer feel that ‘I am a victim'.

 
But their own life has been marred and scarred by this experience.

It has not been marred. It has been influenced. And it has been influenced out of their choice. And you feel from your kind and gentle heart a sense of sorrow, a sense of regret, a sense of despair, but dear one, the life course though very difficult, has been chosen by the soul and therefore no judgement must be passed on either.

 But surely the perpetrators of such actions should be punished?

Yes, because you have your earth laws, they must be followed just as you follow universal laws. We accept that.  But dear one, the laws are placed NOT for punishment. And that is why your laws have failed.  Why have all your earthly laws not stopped what you have called ‘crime’? Because your earthly laws come from an intellectual point of right and wrong. They must come from a point of unity that at present seems separated. The laws must provide for those you call criminals, to be given a strong spiritual foundation of laws which they have forgotten, due to the veil of forgetfulness that was placed upon them at the time of physical birth.   Your laws seek to punish and that is why they will never succeed. Your laws seek to keep distant from society the one you call ‘criminal’. They never seek to embrace. They never seek to understand. They never seek to love. Your laws are framed for the physical mind and physical body quite forgetting that the vital part is neither mind nor body, but the light within. Your laws must seek to guide, to inform. When you seek to guide others follow out of love, out of acceptance. When you desire to control, others follow because they fear and where there is fear, my children, there must be rebellion.

What drives them is what drives you. They wish to learn, but they wish to learn from another area. Not one chosen by you - at present. But do not be complacent and think that you have not made these choices in earlier lifetimes or will not make them in the ones to follow. Let all self-righteousness dissolve.

 Sir, you had said we should to embrace all experiences. A few years back what I had thought was the right choice I made, maybe after a few years I think that was not the right choice. Do I have to feel guilty about it?

Do you wish to have a burden? Are you feeling so light that you want more weight?  If you desire that, we will say yes.

Be light and Light. That is my only answer. And your choice can never be the wrong one.

Thank you, Sir.

 Just one last question Sir. Sir you had said that one should not intentionally have any judgements, but doesn't judgement make to not to do what is wrong?

We have understood - And yes, you must judge. And now all in this group that has been with me for so long are wondering.  You must judge only your own actions. Only your own words. Only your own thoughts. You must judge. When you judge do not judge like this child of mine and then say I made a wrong choice. She judged from her physical mind. Judge from the truth of your soul and then decide the course of action you wish to take. Because that is the true free will choice. Do not be swayed by what the environment tells you is right or wrong. Remember my son, there are several things you do today, which in times earlier, you would have been killed for,  and there are several things which you do not do today, which in times earlier were accepted as completely moral and right. So do not let the 'illusion' of time make a moral. judgement. Make a soul judgement and that will give you the path.

Sir, you had mentioned about the supreme light dividing itself into all the different worlds, etc. Does that conform to what the scientists is the 'big bang' theory?

(Sir smiled) Child, when energy separates it emits a sound.

Sir, it always bothers me how so many people are being born on the earth. Are they all separating from the supreme light…………………………………………………………………………..

Because you can only see the manifestation of the separation it bothers you. You cannot see the constant merging that is also taking place simultaneously.

Sir, but the population is on an upward spiral. Isn’t that more separation than merging?

Is your world the only one?  You would like to answer 'yes', wouldn’t you?

It is a good tourist destination, Sir!

Do you know my son, that you are extremely right? So many from other worlds come to Earth at least once to experience 'free will'. So in a sense, yes, it is a tourist attraction!

Go in peace and light dear ones.