10.10.2004
Sohrab:
I am speaking to you today in link. It is me speaking but I am in link with the energy of our own group. It is time we all started truly accepting our collective energy without needing the verification of seeing the appearance of a trance in a medium such as me, when the energy wishes to talk to you. It is now time for a leap of faith and complete belief in the power of the collective.
We work strangely as a group. We have grown collectively, beautifully, absolutely beautifully and our group soul wishes to thank each and every body both the present and not physically present here, for their individual contribution to this entity. We have grown more from our mistakes than we have from our so called spiritualism. But the joyous part about this group is that we constantly fall, pick ourselves up, cry a bit and move on. Right now in this room, there is still a lot of disbelief in the power of the oneness in us. Perhaps disbelief is not the correct word. Lack of confidence is more the word, more the phrase. You often say "Let me draw on group energy." And there is an instant trigger in the back of your mind that says "What is group energy? Doesn’t exist." The moment that little voice appears you immediately cut off the flow that is rightfully yours. And I am being urged to ask you to please not cut off the flow to this wonderful energy which is you. It’s not some outside energy. It is collective energy, of each one that belongs to this group. It is beautiful energy. It is vibrant. It is alive. It is thinking, growing, and energetic, vibrant energy. It is divine and it is also human. Human, it has to be human because you are on the human plane and so it has to factor human energy coupled with the divine. There is no separation between these two energies only you perceive a separation. So right now, take a moment and fill yourselves just for you with this wonderful group energy that is all around us. Right now. Please fill for self, not to pass on for anybody else, just for you. Take it in; it is your divine right.
There are a few messages.
Nandinie: You are certainly hitting areas where you are causing resistance. It is happening. What was said earlier today is very applicable. Internalize it for self. You know what is meant. Go with the flow. And draw upon the group energy to help you in this process. Instead of obstacles these will become little bumps. You won’t even notice them.
Priya: Start to believe in your inner beauty. You have so much of it and you keep pushing it down. If you don’t believe in your own inner beauty, how can others around you? You are blessed, you are truly blessed by the teachers you have around you in your family, in your social life and in this group. See them as wonderful teachers.
Deepak: The time has come for a huge leap of faith. You will be soon called upon, to jump off a cliff, figuratively. Know when the time comes that the Masters are with you
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and more important you are with you. It is something you have drawn to yourself. Take the risk, take the plunge. Have complete faith in yourself. You will jump and wings will sprout from your back. Draw upon the energy of this group.
Yasmin: You are drawing a lot of fear to self. You are actually attracting fear which does not belong to you. It is simply a phase that you have chosen to experience. So undergo the experience you have chosen but do not magnify it. Understand within, that you must experience a certain level of fear. Go within, check out why and allow the experience to enrich you but put a halt to what does not belong to you and what you are pulling to your own physical and mental bodies. Take the help of this friend (Ellaeenah). Do not lean on her, but take her help. She will guide you. Have no fear. Accept what you have to experience. Three weeks, three weeks and you will be on an upswing.
Mishar: You are very much part of this group. Your youthful energies are needed by us at this time. Be with us in link if you are not here in person for all meetings. We need you. We need your help. Will you give it to us? Thank you. And in return we will play with you, out there on the street, we will play with you. We will throw a ball in your direction. We will play with you. Life is meant to be enjoyed. Don’t make it too serious.
Sohaya: Undo those little ribbons that you have tied and all the knots will open up. But it requires you to pick up your hand and pull the string; nobody else can do it for you. For too many years have you lived, tying these tight little knots around every compartment of your life. You are now at an energy level ready, ready to face the unraveling. Do not blame yourself for having created these knots. They were needed, they were necessary. Now is the time to pull the strings open. One by one. It is a challenge we give you. Will you do it? You are ready.
Aruna: Every time you come to this meeting you must hug 10 people. They need your energies. This is not a joke. Please. 10 people, you will be guided. They will need the energies you are working with. No need to tell them what, just hug them.
Nirmala: Your friends are waiting in the wings. They are waiting for you to take the courage to communicate with them again. Fully, you must open your heart. Open your physical selves to them. They have made approaches but they are having trouble connecting with you. Welcome them joyously. A new language will open up to you.
Channeling through Ellaeenah:
Ray 5. That ray which you as a group denied. That was your original group ray but you chose to keep it aside and at present accept Ray 2 as your group ray, because Ray 5 involves science. (Laughter) (To Yasmin) You are in the wrong group. You should start your own group with that little one (Banoo) (laughter). All these here, consider themselves to be scientifically stupid. (Laughter) but you are not.
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Ray 5 deals with science, but not science as you understand it. It is the science of any stream of knowledge. Science is the learning in a structured manner of knowledge. That is science. And the reason you discarded this ray was because each one here resists structure. We won’t call you undisciplined; we will just call you non-structured (laughter). You fight structure and then promptly build your own. But that is fine because the ray that you have chosen, of love and wisdom, requires even more structure than Ray 5. It needs a structure that is so flexible that can grow and contract at will to embrace anyone who comes to you. And that ray also deals with wisdom. And you have chosen to go beyond just knowledge and just wisdom. So you chose not only to learn but to apply and experience for self. So you have chosen an even bigger ray. Brave of you.
So what is Ray 5? It is that ray that you call upon when you wish to learn any stream of knowledge, whether it is pure sciences, or applied sciences, whether it is medicine or engineering, whether it is in your field of computers or it is as abstract as astrology, whether it is perfect or completely incorrect. Any kind of science. Knowledge and its structured earning require the potency of Ray 5. In your world, ray 5 is very, very vital because unlike other realms where knowledge is inherent, and unforgotten, in your realm knowledge is neither inherent nor is it remembered. The realm you function in is a realm which deliberately and consciously chooses a stream or streams of knowledge. And then deliberately and consciously attempts to understand and then remember it. For you therefore the power of this ray is vital. Use this ray as though you are using a silver laser beam and allow this silver laser beam to focus on those parts of the physical brain that are involved in the learning. Because of the lack of that stream of knowledge you may not even know which part of your brain needs this but the silver laser will. But you have to call upon it and ask it to help in the study that you require.
It is an excellent tool that you can pass onto your children so that when they attempt to study all the useless knowledge their books give them, for a while at least their brain will retain this useless knowledge. And it is truly useless because so much of this knowledge is either completely incorrect or partially so. So much of the knowledge that you give your children has absolutely no relevance. No relevance to their spirit. You teach them how to fight and how to deceive and how to be cunning in a stream of knowledge that you call history. You teach them to fear the forces of nature in a stream of knowledge that you call geography. You teach them mathematics without ever introducing them to the mathematics of the universe, thereby making the subject completely irrelevant, because it has no relevant connection with the universe that they are growing up in. And then you teach them a stream of knowledge which you dare to call ‘values’. Whose values? Which values? Where a child is not permitted to think about his own value system. Is this the knowledge that a child grows up with? How can you teach values? You can limit and allow the child to absorb its significance by example. You see how relevant Ray 5 is with you all.
Now, what about an individual with a Monadic Ray 5? That individual is one you will almost always call a genius. He comes from a family of souls that actually create knowledge. Would you be very surprised to know that not all knowledge has been created yet? Light has still so much left to create. And it is waiting, deliberating, what it
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should create next and when it does, it leaves this task to the monadic family of ray 5 to create the rules, structures, norms, standards for this new knowledge. They are the actual creators of knowledge. They do not discover what is already present, they create what is not. But when you are in physical embodiment, this creation takes on a different guise. It takes on the guise of discovery. You create on a monadic level; you discover what you have created, on the physical level. Now a genius may be a genius in any stream of knowledge. That which you call the arts, we still call science. There are rules in literature and there are structures in art. There are standards in music; Discordance, disharmony, harmony, rhythm are all norms of music. Standards. So any genius will likely fall into the Monadic Ray of 5. Now this individual not only enjoys the process of discovery, he enjoys the process of applying the rules of discovery. Such an individual will not be so drawn to the pure sciences as he will be to applied sciences.
Now Soul Ray 5 individual is a unique combination. Some streams of knowledge he will readily accept, easily understand and apply at will. Other streams of knowledge he will deliberately resist. The reason, not stubbornness as you all thinking and smiling about. No, a Soul Ray 5 individual has taken this ray to experience, understand, learn and apply only a certain stream or few streams of knowledge. He has chosen the few. He has not allowed himself to be open to all streams of knowledge. If that was so he would never have a chance to apply this knowledge. And ray 5 is a ray of concrete knowledge; knowledge that is applied in practical day-to-day living. So a soul ray 5 will not be open to learning something which he knows he is not going to apply. So one scientist may choose soul ray 5 and only wish to learn about engineering, because he wishes to apply that knowledge. But the knowledge of medicine or alternative medicine will be a shut door to him. He has not chosen to apply it, so he doesn’t wish to learn it, except in its very basic form. Can you see this difference? A monadic soul 5 will be open to any stream of knowledge. A soul ray will make a decision about this stream or streams. Such a person may go through life experiencing, understanding and applying one stream of knowledge and then moving onto a second and then moving onto a third.
Both monadic and soul ray 5 individuals naturally are extremely intelligent. They have to be. Their physical brain must have the physical ability and capability of grasping, comprehending and applying. They are what you call very ‘quick’ individuals. They do not need time to think over what has been said or read. They instantly understand it the moment it comes to them. And then they can go beyond, very, very quickly. They even know how to apply it. But because they are both intelligent, depending on their free-will choice, they can use this intelligence for self or for others. They can use it for enhancement of ego or enhancement of spirit. They can use it in order to gain ‘superiority’ over the universe, or they can use it to make the universe superior to their physical selves. That is a choice. And most soul ray 5 and monadic ray 5 individuals often take both decisions at different times.
You are learning about your light body activations, and such individuals, when there is no light body activation or a very low level of activation, will often take the ego-centered decision. When there activations rise they use and apply the knowledge learnt by them to
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deliberately move away from ego center. They will be the ones who will often question why. Why must I do this? What if I don’t? What does it mean? Explain it; it doesn’t make sense to me. And that is their way of acquiring knowledge. They will not accept without question what you tell them. As children, they are the worst to have, because they will question your every decision. And providence itself needs to help you then if you do not know the answer. So if you tell your monadic or soul ray 5 child to be quiet and he asks you why and you don’t know why, you are going to have to deal with noise that you never expected. So be very careful with those children. They are often considered stubborn. What they are, is seeking an answer and refusing to believe what you tell them without reason. And you find more and more of these children taking birth today. Now your planet needs these children who will ask ‘why’ so that knowledge will now be opened up to the light of everyday living and application. Light is not something that has to be hidden behind a bushel of your ego anymore. So you need these children to come and fight you when you tell them "keep quiet".
Now you have a Personality Ray 5. What a braggart he can be. He is the typical, ‘I know it all’. He is the one who never gives you a chance to speak. All you have to say is one word and he starts a dissertation on that one word. And such an individual is interesting. He can start a dissertation on any subject whether he really knows it or not. Remember one attribute of ray 5 is creation of knowledge. A personality ray 5 can ‘create’ that knowledge instantly and make you believe in it. You will believe that what he is saying is true because he speaks so wisely. Till sometime you realize, his knowledge really didn’t make sense. He is one who can prove to you that 2+2=22 and not 4. And he will use all the rules of mathematics, and some you haven’t even heard of, to prove that. Such a personality cannot abide being wrong or ignorant. And that is his fall. Because he does not consider himself capable of ignorance, he never asks ‘why’. And because he doesn’t ask, he doesn’t go out to look for answers. He is completely sure he has all the knowledge. He is a wonderfully amusing personality.
And yet a personality ray 5, when he can overcome this negative ego trait, can be a personality truly intelligent, truly clever, one you can rely upon, depend upon for answers given to you in the simplest, most practical words. He is not interested in abstract concepts and thoughts. Having a personality ray of concrete knowledge, he understands the practicality of every stream of knowledge. He does not deal in abstractions; he does not live in a world that is non-practical. He is not an idealist, he is not a dreamer. He is the best friend you can have, because in times of confusion he can truly guide you if he has been able to go beyond his Ego; if he has been able to go beyond and allows himself to say "I don’t know this answer." Otherwise he will make up, ‘create’, knowledge which he himself will believe in, and he will deceive himself into thinking that he has actually tapped into universal knowledge for this. A personality ray 5 must be very, very careful when he enters the realm of what you call spirituality. Channeling for such an individual is very ‘easy’ because he never really channels. He creates on the spot. And you will not know he is creating. A truly, truly paradoxical human being and one whose ego conflict is tremendous because the personality ray 5 makes him believe that he knows it all. He truly believes that. And when he realizes that he does not know it all, the moment of trauma the ego faces you cannot even understand.
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Who chooses a personality ray 5? One who has been a braggart in all his incarnations. He chooses this ray that will present to him the conflict between ego and spirit. And therefore we respect highly such a soul. To be able to see the error of your ways and choose a master so stern is worthy of respect. Not all can chose this ray of personality 5. It is a ray that opens itself up to condemnation, scorn. You leave yourself open to that from others because you have chosen the scorn of others, the derision of others to break your ego. How difficult a choice. Never look down at a personality ray 5. That person has a strength found in very few.
Today we are going to take 5 questions. There is great confusion about the rays. Some of you have no idea what we are talking about all these weeks. (Laughter) So we will allow 5 questions.
Nandinie: How do we use these rays?
That is exactly what we will be asking this child to channel for the seminar. Each ray, in each aspect will be dealt with at length. How to use in daily living. You can then tell our son Sohrab to ask those who are attending to get their ray charts.
Banoo: Suppose the child is interested in arts and the parents insist on putting him into science. What will happen?
The child will go into sciences but he will very creatively use the science. So you might find, suddenly the child will look for the science of music or he will suddenly find, hidden attributes and features, chemical features of colour which were not yet discovered.
Syrus: As you know, I keep on asking why and not taking for granted what masters say. What does that make me and the others like me?
It makes you thinking individuals.
Syrus: Sir, I don’t accept it unless I have proof of it
Which you should not. That is why it makes you thinking individuals.
Question: inaudible
Only you know your strength. That is a free-will choice. No master can give you that easy way out. In fact we can use ray 4 to even further this conflict in your mind. (Laughter)
Aruna: If somebody doesn’t know have the chart of their rays, how do they find out?
That is something you have to now sensitize yourself with. When all the rays have been discussed, in all their aspects, we then ask you to study each aspect leaving yourself open
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completely to what has been discussed. You will find yourself drawn, even though what has been said in that aspect may not be very nice. Please understand that every ray and every aspect, when it manifests in your physical realm will have a dualistic aspect of positive and negative. It must. It is manifesting in a dual realm. So there is no ray in no aspect which is only positive. Each has a positive and a negative. A positive is when you use the ray manifestation for self and spirit. A negative is when you use the ray manifestation only for ego.
Pilloo: Sir we hear people saying that "I am ray 4 or ray 2 or ray 1".But aren’t we al, all rays……
When you get your chart you will see how every single ray affects you because rays not only affect you, they affect the planets, they affect the signs, the houses, the zodiac. So of course you are a part of all the rays, but you will strongly manifest, in most situations your dominating rays.