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25.09.2005

 

Greetings of Lenduce, Vyvamus and Ellaeenah. I am in a full consciousness, holding and embodying Lenduce and Vyvamus. What does it mean to move into the 5th dimension? Are you going to loose your physical bodies? Your mental sheath? Emotional vehicle? No. They will be in place very much, as they are now, certainly with some modifications. So today we are going to throw open this meeting to you, urging you to think of all the myriad third dimensional aspects which you can think of, including irritations. And how they will manifest in the 5th. So let us have your ‘challenges’ thrown to us. What aspect do you want us to talk of?

 

Balance.

Let us talk of balance in the third dimension and then move onto the 5th. The third dimension balance is a balance of energies that emanate first from the physical, and then move into the etheric and subtle bodies. When the energies emanate from the physical, for the 3rd dimensional balance, it is essential that the physical remains in utmost balance. The physical remains in balance through right diet, right nourishment, right activity, right thought.

Right diet has been explained by several, several masters. Though we would urge you to move away from non-vegetarian, we do understand that for many of you a non-vegetarian diet is something that you need in order to assuage the hunger of your taste. And so be it. But be it in awareness, that every morsel of non-vegetarian food that you ingest, increases the acidity level within your body one million times. No exaggeration. Every non-vegetarian meal must be then supplemented with a million times of alkaline energy. There must be one morsel of non-vegetarian food to 25 morsels of uncooked vegetables. This brings back a semblance of balance.

Then what your body does not need at all, is bread, biscuits, cheese, chocolates, cakes, pastries, desserts, spices, fried, fats, milk, cereals in very limited quantity. That is the diet for balance. No coffee, no cocoa. You laugh, because to you it seems, impossible. And yet we tell you, that you laugh because of your limited sight. We can see a time, if you wish to use this word, when each one of you will be on this diet, willingly and joyously. And how will you attain that? With every meal that you put in, and enjoy, spend a minimum of 15 minutes after that understanding its illusion. Enjoy it to the hilt, but spend those 15 minutes understanding the illusion of that enjoyment. Understand how ignorance of truth, leads to enjoyment of untruth. And then understand never to raise a finger to point to another’s untruth, because in your very diet there is ‘untruth’. Your taste deceives you. How then can you judge others who deceive? They just do it in different ways.

Then we said right nourishment. Food is not nourishment. Food only enables you to survive, and often make you fat. And then what is fat. Fat is a completely acidic state of being. When alkaline levels in the body reach dangerously low percentages, the body begins to either grow fat or unhealthily thin, in order to draw your awareness to this imbalance. But what do you do instead? You go on a diet. Oh! Certainly the body loses weight, but Balance still has to be maintained. Do not go on these diets. They do nothing to help you. They only create greater and greater imbalance which always leads to mental and emotional imbalances, which always leads to spiritual imbalance.

So then what is nourishment? Is it oxygen? Not at all. It is that spirit of consciousness that you breathe in, which when manifested in physical terms, you have called prana. Prana is nothing more than the spirit of consciousness. The consciousness of all and nothing. And how many of you nourish yourself with that? You merely eat. There is no nourishment. Even when there is a poor diet, if nourishment is complete, it will strive to keep your physical in balance. And then how do you then nourish yourself? Simple, do it now.

Sit with palms and feet open; essential that feet be open. The ideal place to do it is on a bed, so that you are not in an uncomfortable posture like this. Now begin to breathe in. Draw in, not oxygen, allow the breath to take in oxygen, as and when it needs and do not bother with that. Take in the energy present in this room. Draw it in with the catalyst of your breath, through your palms and your feet to a count of 8 inhalations. Breathe in, draw 2,3,4,5,6,7,8. Release instantly. Draw 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. Release instantly. Draw 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. Release instantly. Draw 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. Release instantly.

How many felt tingling? What is that if not prana? And how difficult was it? You did it instantly.

Can prana be taken on a full stomach? Never. So when is the best time to draw in prana? Every moment of the day certainly, but every morning, before the rising of the sun, the prana is rich, rich, in energy. But how many of you wake up before the rising of the sun? And then, my dear, you ask for balance.

In the 5th dimension, diet will be right, nourishment will be right; sleep will become a mere pastime, not an essential quality. You will rise before the sun, and you will sleep with the setting of the sun. And when diet and nourishment is full, perfect flow, right activity must follow. You were told last week of creative activity vs. work and toil and labor. Creativity activity is the activity of the 5th dimension. Toil and labor is the activity of the third. But the body must be in balance in order to create. And when there is right activity, right food, and right nourishment, the physical, mental, emotional and the subtle sheaths are all in perfect balance. Equilibrium. There is no restlessness. And there is right thought. That is your 5th dimensional life.

You wonder, will I ever attain it? If it were an impossibility, would we waste our time telling you of it? Do we waste our time telling you of the 10th dimensional existence? What would be its purpose? It would only be a futile attempt at arrogance, in showing off all that we know. But we tell you what you can attain this, that you can attain this now.

Sitter: The blue print

The blue print in the third dimension is chosen by the higher self. There will be no such blue print in the 5th dimensional birthing process. It is a moment to moment choice. In full awareness, full consciousness, complete balance. No set blue prints required and yet there will be that large blue print which will be provided by what you have called the Akashic Record. Not that you will have the knowledge of the Akashic record, but you will have a moment to moment awareness of the final goal set in the Akashic Record and you will proceed towards that goal, in moment to moment living, thought, word, action, deed. Won’t it be beautiful? There would be no mistakes. Just re-creation, after re-creation after re-creation.

You have used that word, in your 3-dimensional world so lightly; you call it, recreation, meaning pass time. You have dropped it from its pedestal of re-creation to an insignificant pastime. How then can you get its energy? You only get the energy of a pastime. Do not ever use the word recreation. Remember it is re-creation by you, the 5th dimensional you.

Sitter: Magic

Ah! Magic. In the 3rd dimension, magic is a conscious deliberate choice of the lower mind. Ray 7. It is when the lower mind uses Ray 7 in full consciousness. In the 5th dimension, Ray 7 ceases to work. There is no Ray 7 in the 5th. Then you wonder, there is no magic. Ray 7 becomes Ray 3. Ray 7 becomes Ray 3. What is Ray 3? How is Ray 3 different from Ray 5?

Sitter: Ray 3 is active intelligence using creativity and wisdom, and Ray 5 is using science and energy and also technical kind.

Ray 5 is more practical. Well done. So Ray 7 becomes Ray 3. That is magic. When with love, wisdom, there is creation, ongoing creation, isn’t that magic? How do you understand magic of your magicians? You call it sleight of hand. Making illusion seem real. Let us use that same analogy for the 5th dimension. That which seems to you right now as illusion, as was evident by the reaction on your faces, when we spoke of right diet; to you it sounds an illusion. Not something that you will attain. It becomes real. A living reality. That is magic, in the 5th dimension. Magically create all that you need, with complete wisdom. And not only an esoteric wisdom, but a wisdom that is translated into physical intellect.

(To S) You don’t know your own ray, how will you learn to use it? That is your Ray. Grasp at its power and use it. Use it to live consciously, out of an intelligent choice to do so. Use it, to think consciously because you have intelligently chosen to think right, to speak right, to be right. That is your power. And the more you use it for self, the greater will you be able to use it for others. Why do you think the explanation of cosmic energy has come through you, and not through her? She is not Ray 3, she is Ray 1. She wields it, but will not have the intellectual grasp in the NOW to explain how she wields it, for which you are essential. So you see, you are already using it. You are using it for them. And how about using it for him? (Pointing to S himself) Isn’t ‘he’ Cosmic Energy? Divinity? Mystery? Don’t you love mystery?

And this would be a good opportunity for us to tell you about these 4 wonderful leaders. It is by no random choice that they are together. They each have a very specific task in the NOW. And their tasks will change constantly, to keep them on their toes. In balance, not teetering. Visualize the leaders as a diamond. The peak in front, two peaks on the side and the peak at the back. At this peak (in front) is Ellaeenah; Ray 1, power. Her task is to take you and all others into the 5th dimension. It is only through her energies that a very large number of souls assigned to her will move into that dimension. (To Y) Do you now understand better as her husband? It is not that she will physically work with all these millions. It is her power that will emanate and pull the millions that have been assigned to her.

There are 7 such peaks, we call them Stars, that you find on earth. She is one such peak. But she knows only the power of the energy. She knows how to yield it, she knows how to manipulate it, and she knows how to change it. She knows how to give it to you. She is comfortable with its power. She has for all time been this power.

But what is the use of giving you this power through her, if in the 3rd dimension, you do not understand it? And there comes, the right point of the diamond (Sohrab). Ever wondered why you always sit at her right? No randomness. No randomness. (To Divyaa) You always sit at her left. These two (Sohrab and Divyaa) will explain the power of cosmic energy. He will do it through intellect, through practical experience and usage of words, making you experience it in your here and now reality, where each one’s experience is different, and only he knows how. So when you go to him, the power that she (Ellaeenah) has infused within you is then understood by him, and he then intelligently explains it to you. And yet, he does not understand from where the power has come. He does not need to. That is for her (Ellaeenah) to know. And then what does she (Divyaa) do? She explains this power to you in its universal energy description, giving you its actual tangible feel, guiding you then, into its various physical implantations, within you. She (Ellaeenah) infuses, he (Sohrab) explains. She (Divyaa) implants. The 4th (Zafar) puts it all together in terms of Ray 5, Science, and Explaining to you the Science of Energy, making you understand intelligently that energy is a science as tangible, with as many laws, rules and principles, as your very limited Physics. And he will teach you its laws, its truths, its principles. As you imbibe one, another will be revealed to him. As you imbibe the second, a third will be revealed to him. No more than that. As you imbibe, so will it be revealed. If you decide to stagnate, no revelations will come to him, not because he has suddenly lost his power, but because you have not imbibed the first principle yet.

And no point of the diamond can do without the other. What would be the purpose of her (Ellaeenah) leading into the 5th dimension, if you (Sohrab) didn’t show them how to use it for practical living? If you (Divyaa) didn’t explain to them, energy and how it works with, multifaceted laws (Zafar). But of these 4 leaders, she (Ellaeenah) is the only one who will work consciously and completely super-consciously. She does not need physical contact with all, but only some. And just as they form a diamond, because there are 7 such peaks/Stars(like Ellaeenah), there are 7 such diamonds already at work all over your world. One in each continent.

Can you see how you are being readied for the 5th dimension? And are you still going to look at us in disbelief when we tell you that you will follow those diets? You will be in that perfect equilibrium. You are already being readied for it. You are already being pulled ahead by her (Ellaeenah), given his (Sohrab) practical interpretation, given her (Divyaa) energy implants, and given the few rules that he (Zafar) has already revealed. It is already in place. It is happening here and now. Do not look with disbelief when we speak to you of your future. When you do, you disrespect yourselves, you disrespect this star.

Sitter: I would like to ask about the power of manifestation.

Already done. Magic. What is manifestation, my beautiful one? Isn’t it creation? If you wish to manifest a lovely wonderful human being all you would have to do is to think right. That is the key to the 5th dimension. Do you understand? Your task is that.

Sitter: I am very confused on this.

That is why we are urging you. It is not to chide you. We asked you, do you know your own Ray? What is Ray 3? Right thought. What is your 5th dimensional grid? Right thought. And what does it entail for you, in the present here and now?

Let us give you an example. Let her sit in a manner that you judge as completely inappropriate.

Sitter: I am fighting….

Don’t fight, don’t, you can’t. Think.

So she sits in an inappropriate manner. We are teaching you here. You have judged her and said "How can she sit in this manner? How unmannerly she is." Thought has crossed, because that is how you have conditioned yourself to think.

There must be a right way of sitting, of standing, of speaking, eating, of drinking, of being in private, and in public. With you and your mental Ray, there must be a right way of doing and not doing, of thinking and not thinking, of speaking and not speaking, hearing and not hearing. You even judge that. So when this beautiful one does not hear you, or she hears you scattered, you say "Didn’t you hear me?"

Now watch your thoughts, and your words. As soon as you have thought such or spoken such, take a little diary and write it down. Initially you will be writing down about a thousand thoughts a day. And that is wonderful. And initially you have to do nothing else but write. Number the points. Number them. Date-wise. You will find in just doing this exercise, the number of points eventually will decrease. When you find a sense of attainment at this reduction, then comes step two. But only when you feel a sense of attainment. It maybe one, it maybe with thousand. You must feel that inner attainment.

Then you move to step two, where you write down only the first 10 points that take place in the day. And then use the Ray 3, which you are the force of, to understand the illusion of each one of these, and write the truth next to it. Eventually, you will stop doing this exercise because it will be done instantly here (in the mind), consciously, intelligently; that is how you function. So do not expect some Master to talk great truths to you. It will be done by you, by your intellect, by your brain, by your mind, which is slowly expanding to higher and higher to divine. Then you will see how your work of practically explaining these cosmic energies to others also changes. At present, you are only being able to explain 10% of the energy she is infusing. The 90% is being left unspoken of. They do not even know they have it, because you haven’t explained it. This will begin to open up the remaining.

Manifestation. Awareness of the power to create. Manifestation means no conditioning. In the 5th dimension, the being moves out of all conditioning. Leaves behind the chains of conditioning completely. When there is no conditioning, you create again, moment to moment, your reality. There is no past, there is no future. There is NOW.

Sitter: The grid of the 5th dimension.

In the 3rd dimension the grids are all constant and common. There are no changes, no diversifications, no distinctions. Yes, certainly, there are of some unique points of each individual grid. But the basic grid structure, remains the same for all three dimensional individuals. In the 5th dimensional, there is inconstancy. Not only within the grids of each one, but within your own grid, which keeps changing structure, form and energy, composition, as the being evolves. And it is because of this that infusions of 5th dimensional and other higher dimensional energies are required from pointed Stars. Higher dimensional energies have to be infused by those whom we call Stars.

Why do we call them Stars? We call her a Star because we look at her and we see her as a 1000 pointed star. It is from each point that she exudes the energy, though not consciously. She only does it consciously in a situation like this or when she is teaching or doing healing or energy work. Then it is conscious, she is feeling the energy emanating. But the 1000 points irradiate this energy, constantly, irrespective of her lack of conscious awareness of this. As soon as your grid structure is ready to take in what she has released, instantly there will be a huge shaft from her to you, wherever you maybe, if you are the soul assigned to her. That shaft of energy will infuse within you a higher dimensional energy, instantly changing the formation, grid structure and composition of the 5th dimensional and higher dimensional grids.

Most grids in the 3rd dimension are like a mesh. There is no mesh in the 5th dimension. They are only geometries. Universal geometries. And these constantly shift. And please understand that you are not even aware of 10% of the universal geometries. You are only aware of those universal geometries that function in manifested forms in the 3-D. As you function in the 5th dimensional, other geometries will open up. As you move into higher dimensions, other geometries will open up. Now if this (3-D grid) is a mesh, what does the 5th dimensional grid look like? We cannot say that all will resemble this, but most will resemble stars.

But this star is formed by other universal geometries that join themselves to form this basic structure. The 5th dimensional grid has another unique characteristic. The 3rd dimensional grid can only expand. The 5th dimensional grid can disappear altogether. It attaches itself to another aspect of your soul elsewhere, takes in its energy, and comes back to you in a transformed grid formation. Will you be aware of its going? Never. But you wonder how will I function without a grid? Though it disappears to the inner eye, its remnants are always around you, and its remnants are powerful enough to give you protection, manifestation, creation, all that you desire. Its remnants are powerful enough. Can you imagine the power of the actual grid?

The 5th dimensional grid changes composition, form, and structure, in order to accommodate higher and higher energies. In the 5th dimension, she (Ellaeenah) will not be needed to restructure your grid. The 5th dimensional being does that automatically moment to moment. So you may have a 5th dimensional grid with a few 6th dimensional geometries, a few 7th dimensional geometries, a couple of 8th dimensional geometries, and so on.

Sitter: Your personal Sound. Will it change?

Remains constant. Constant. From creation to merger. That is the sound.

Sitter: Does not change.

Never changes. Not in intensity, not in form, not in tonal quality. It is that, if you can hear it constantly, which will help you to move from dimension to dimension.

Sitter: What is the temporary grid that we get during our restructuring sessions?

This is a stage almost all must go though when they are going through the stage of restructuring, and we will explain to you why. When the 3rd dimensional grid is completely removed from you, there comes a period in your life, in your journey, when the physical will have the greatest opportunity to fall back on all 3rd dimensional imbalances. Interesting, isn’t it? You must be given that choice. It is not a question of testing; it is a question of choice.

Now I am speaking as Ellaeenah. At the very first I will always ask you to commit yourself to this process. I ask you three times, so that you have enough time to take back your decision, and I would only complete the process as a normal healing energy session.

(Lenduce/Vyvamus energies took over again) Once you have made this commitment, you have made it here, brain, but the commitment has to be whole, complete. We will go into the responsibilities as soon as we finish answering our questions. So you are given that time to take your commitment back. A temporary grid is placed almost like a fourth dimensional portal. You have been taught that. That the fourth is only a portal. So you are really in that portal. Not being a dimension by itself, the soul has the ability and the right and free-will choice, to traverse back to 3-D or to 5-D. The portal remains open for 40 days. Now this is where your own free-will choice comes in. Within 40 days if you have decided, consciously, to renew the commitment, you will come back to her, and as is the way of the universe, the universe will ensure that you return within 40 days. If you have reverted for the 3-D, the universe will go along with your decision and ensure that however much you try, you do not return within 40 days, and the portal closes. You are back with the same 3-D grid with exact structure form and composition, as you started, without any change. If you return, understand that your soul has committed, and that is why the universe has permitted you to return.

Then what is your responsibility? Then you are this unique being in the universe. You must understand that this is the only time in evolution, when this phenomenon takes place. When you move from 3-D to 5-D in conscious incarnation, one incarnation, at all other time, the movement has been made after death. So you return with a 5th dimensional being, with a 5th dimensional grid. What a unique responsibility for you to handle, and this shows your glory and your honor as the human race to have reached the level when this unique dispensation has been given to humanity. In living 3-D embodiment, you take on a 5-D grid.

But you must be aware that your 3rd dimensional conditioning still exists, causing conflict because the 3-D conditioning releases its own 3-D energy, which is now trying to dwell in a 5-D grid, finding no room for it and thus manifesting in the physical, emotional or mental. Understand the process. Do not get drawn into it. Understand the process. And each manifestation will be unique to you. His manifestation cannot be hers, cannot be yours. Because your conditioning comes form a different root compared to his and hers. So it is the root of all conditioning that will be struck; instant manifestation. And, in your case, because the grid is the grid of thought, intellect, the responsibility is so much more upon you. It is through your 5th dimensional grid that you will release intellect. How then can thinking be wrong? That is your task. A 5th dimensional teacher of 5th dimensional intelligence. That is your present task, not future.

So each one with the grid will be given a task, and that task might change. Supplemented with more and more and more. A 5th dimensional being knows no boundaries. That is why a 5th dimensional grid does not need restructuring. It expands and grows and changes on its own as energies move from dimension to dimension. It knows no boundaries. It is only up to the 3rd dimension that there are boundaries. That is why the mesh. These are boundaries, energy lines of boundaries.

Sitter: How do we know when we are ready for the grid restructuring?

Only when you know it. Only when you know it. When you do not ask that question. When you have to eat, do you question? You know you are ready to eat. There is a hunger. Do you question, "Am I now ready to eat? Am I now ready to bathe? Am I now ready to visit a toilet?" You know you are. Your body tells you so. And if the body tells you these insignificant matters, do you think it will not tell you this? It will. It will. That is our vow.

Ellaeenah: Lenduce and Vyvamus energies have withdrawn. I have to maintain Ellaeenah consciousness and just answer one question pertaining to the grid.

Sitter: What is a grid?

A grid is a formation. It is a structure through which energy flows. For any physical existence, for any animate or inanimate existence, there must be energy flowing from the Divine Source into the actual physical existence. For this there is a conduit. This conduit we call a grid, because it is shown to us by mediums, other than us, that it is like a mesh. And just as you have your electricity meshes which are called grids, we have called it the grid because of this.

Is it the same as aura?

No, not at all, the aura is the emanation of the physical light which comes out. The grid is actually the energy of the Divine Source into you, which means the grid is even beyond all your subtler bodies.

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

Divyaa:

Greetings. I am beautifully linked because we wish you to know, that every moment that you yearn to be one with us, that every moment that you long to join with us, we too long for that portion of self, for that portion of us, that you call you, to be all that it is. How do we convey it to you, for your words do not permit? But this longing that you view through your desires is inextricably bound with the impetus to be the Divine desire to Be. It is your universal life force, vitality, the movement within it, so that I maybe all that I am. So do not even for a moment consider that it is only you who desires. How can that be, if you have truly understood, whom you call you and I are one. Then our quest is as one, always moment to moment. We are one dearest beloveds, we are one, not in some distant dispassionate realm, but in the here and now.

Can water be without its wetness? Can your sunlight be without its warmth? Do not fear your desires. Do not allow them to confuse and confound you. Because in the larger picture, you view with such suspicion and such mistrust, is but an aspect, an expression of the divine desire to BE. It is you, who adds to judgment of good and bad. It is you who adds to this notion of pain and pleasure. But in our longing to BE, it is only Being. You have no words to describe Being. We use words like doing, we use words like experiencing. We tell you that I experience to Be all that I am, because there are no other words. But being is beyond doing, beyond experience, beyond good and bad, and pain and pleasure. There is a certain stillness in being all that I already am.

We wish that these words, that this backdrop, allows you to better embrace your desires. We wish that these words, that this backdrop, helps you to better understand what you call free will. We prefer to call it freedom of individuated will, a small but subtle difference, because in the larger picture, what you call free-will is an expression, an aspect of this Divine Will to BE.

Come now, some of you are confused, but it is time to go beyond, the obvious explanation.

Sitter: You have spoken that all our desires are the desires of the one desire itself and yet it ancient wisdom tells us that the whole path of the spiritual journey is the mastering or the overcoming of desire. This paradox is…..

We shall speak on that. What you call free-will is but an aspect of this larger divine will. You cannot understand truths, in terms of yes and no. Is there free-will, is there not? Is there larger desire, is there not? You must learn to understand the larger picture. We shall answer your question as we continue. Now we shall explain to you what this means. In the larger picture, there is what we call the Divine Desire, the Divine Will to BE. That is incorporated as you individualize into your current desires. In the larger picture, it is only the larger Divine Will to BE, but as you focus, define, it comes in your terms narrower, and it becomes a narrower desire, which you must fulfill, which cannot be suppressed, till it expands back into the larger focus. Yes?

Sitter: I understand, thank you.

We shall continue. In what you call the beginning, we would prefer to call it before the beginning, a paradox, so that you may intuitively understand, that there is no beginning. Yes, I, the one I, divine God, whatever term you choose, chooses to be more than experience, chooses to be all that I am. Every potential, every probability, every possibility, every nuance. Your minds cannot even reach there. And if I become my own myriad focuses, each focus what you will thereafter call one, willfully chooses to view, express, experience, expand, an aspect of that whole, where I am. This is how individuation and its free-will, the way you understand it to be, arises. When the larger focus becomes narrower and narrower as higher selves, soul, current self. And this divine desire is narrowed to your desires, in your current life. Yes? Now, what happens, when in this larger foray of I being all that I am, I choose as an individuation, you for example, to take part, in a physical tangible realm. This focus, your focus to be in its highest terms, is encoded into your energy field, into what you can call the grids of the focus. Because you know at this point, this large focus, this large individuation that you are, with this focus, with this divine desire are going to multiply into many other points of focus. It is from this then, that what you call each life, you encode into your blueprint, as your free-will, as your desire, an aspect of this larger desire. Yes, and that is what then plays up in your life. That is what shows up as desires so that when you wear the veils, willfully again, you may remember what aspect of self you have chosen to be, experience, expand and contribute to. Otherwise, how would you remember once you came into the realm where you wore the veil? Do you see how beautifully it works, where your free-will and divine will become one and the same, where what you call, your desire and the divine desire, become one and the same.

This works in your realm; this magnificent plan, where both are one and only seemingly independent, works on your plane through your desires. Whenever you feel within you a desire kicking in, it is your blueprint kicking in. It is a reminder of what you have planned to do. It is a divine seeking, an expression through current self. It is the ways you remember, the triggers you have placed, so you remember your plans, and here your question gets answered. You cannot suppress desires. As you fulfill or you explore, yes, you may explore desires within, then you do not need to experience them out. Or you must experience them out. It does not matter, which way you do it. Then desires expand and go back to the divine desire to be. So do not try and suppress desires, because when we hear that aspect, it is seeing the larger picture. For those of you who feel desires, do not suppress. It is understanding your desires, through exploring them, that there is growth, evolution. It is what you have planned to do for spirit. You cannot leave it incomplete by suppressing it. That must be understood. But yes, you may see it within its meaning, and in that you may not need to view it outside.

And many of you are going to ask, what about the so called negative desires? Of course, there is no thing like negative, so we use this word, for your understanding and what we mean here is what you refer to as negative. It will be completely relative to each one. And yes, we shall surprise you; even negative desires are part of your blueprint. They are encoded in you. And no it does not mean that you go out and murder your neighbour, because that is your negative desire. It does not even mean that now we have given you permission to indulge in all your negative desires. Listen carefully. Negative desires come up when there is a reason to view the limiting beliefs, feelings, thoughts beyond them. It is to view the limiting impressions, the sanskara. It is to view that part of the "I am not" that you have chosen to work out. That is the purpose of limiting desires; that is part of their blueprint. That is why they are part of the purpose to be. So that you may remove these limiting impression for self, for humanity, for spirit itself. Yes, it is a beautiful plan and it works through such a beautiful thing. Through your desires to be. Go home and see what are your desires telling you from behind the veil. What soul energies are waiting to be expressed? What soul energies are waiting to be worked out? Use desires and awareness optimally.

Sitter: I have two questions. One that you said a little earlier as aspects of self. What I got is there are primary three focuses of the one, Ray 1, Ray 2 and Ray 3. Then we go into Ray 1 with different sub-focuses, Ray 2 and Ray 3. Am I right in that?

Yes, absolutely.

Sitter: Thank you. Now this one, negative desires. Now you will say they come up and give me an opportunity to view my sanskara. But supposing, I wish to externally explore that. I have a negative desire to murder someone; I go ahead and do it. What about the karma then?

We shall tell you. These negative desires can either be explored within, through what you call conscious living. Then you become aware of the reasons. You do not need to manifest a murder, outside. But it is ok, if you do not and you want to murder, you want to learn from the outside, you will bear the responsibility. There will come learning. You will learn from that what the reason behind the murder was. The karma is not the murder. The karma is the reason for the murder. Did you murder out of jealousy? Did you murder out of robbery? The desire is completely different. Murder is inconsequential. The karma is the reason behind it.

It is being. It is far beyond experience. It is the divine which is not really experiencing anything. It is but a moment. We see it as how many experiences. We see it as eternity. It is the glance in the mirror, of how wonderful I am. And the I am not, is one fraction in the mirror. When you see your beauty, when you know what you are not, one fraction.

Sitter: What about your desire for drink?

The reason behind that must be discovered. What gives you the rise, the desire for alcohol. All these cases that you take are not examples, because there cannot be a same answer for different examples. You may take alcohol for a different reason that you need to work out. It was explained beautifully through Ellaeenah in reference to our questions. The conditioning is different. Conditioning is karma. Conditioning are your belief patterns. When you really understand these truths, we will see, and now I am speaking as Divyaa, that karma, free-will, destiny, desire, all are the same. They are different aspects of seeing the one larger truth. They are only different ways, they are only different focuses, they are only different pictures. That is why you cannot really talk about one, or the other. And I shall take your leave.

Sitter: Is this the same as the Patanjali sutra which states, that if you meditate upon your tendencies, your positive and negative, you know your past life existence?

Your desires will now tell you what are your past life tendencies. Those which keep coming up like a pattern. Patterns are so important to understand. Because pattern is a picture, a reflection into your past life. They are un-dealt with. They are part of the "I am not", which is not dealt with. If you can become aware of them, you can change them.

Thank you.

 

 

Sohrab:

I speak today as an expanded form of myself, in link as Divyaa says. So much has been said, abut the macrocosm. I am being asked to share a small part of the microcosm with you today. What would seem insignificant and yet is not. We are all aware, that we have vast amounts of helpers on the other sides, who are with us, at every moment in time. Our guides, our angelic friends, our dear departed ones, and many, many others. Now it’s time to talk, about yet another friend who many of us are not conscious of. We draw to ourselves, virtually on a daily basis, sometimes for a little longer, a friend on the other side, who will help us and provoke us to look at a small issue daily. A really small issue.

Let us take an issue at random. Irritability. A very common one for many in this room and particularly for me. We draw to ourselves the most suitable friend for that day, who gladly comes along for the ride. Who comes, to not only, point it out to us, but provokes all around us, to give us the opportunity to be irritable. If this doesn’t work, by their behavior, this friend will provoke us to stub our toes, to fall to trip, to do anything in his soul power, to provoke irritability. If we acknowledge this, and say "Yes, I am feeling particularly irritable today" and start the process of looking at why, the friend bids us farewell and leaves. If we ignore it, or do not question, the friend tends to stay, I am being told, for a period of three days. If during those three days, with constantly accelerated effect, we still do not look at it, the friend leaves us, and we choose to work on another issue in between and we come back to this. And we don’t look at it again, we work on still another and we come back to it. And we keep coming back to the same issue till we acknowledge it.

Now just acknowledgement of course is not enough. We have to look very deep, as to why we behave that way. What makes us resonate? What provokes irritability in us? What are the issues, we are not looking at? And so on. Once we are on an upward path, they leave us alone, but the moment we start sliding, back comes the friend. This is being given to us today, to understand in a very conscious level, why we have, what seems to be day after day of similar moods. Let us now that we are aware of this, consciously try and link with this friend, and ask for his help. Not only to identify the issue, but to give us a little start on the path. If this is asked for it will happen.

Sitter: What about those times, when you feel just seemingly low and depressed and out of sorts and nothing or no one has caused it or is causing it. The days are going really well and you are still low and depressed. Is that also case by the friend?

Depression is the perfect example of this thick blanket of "I don’t want to look at something" that we create around us. Depression generally is caused by several aspects that we are not willing to look at. And the more that we add to that collection, deeper becomes the depression. So now it is our responsibility to weed through this cloud, and start looking at what exactly is causing this. Because then this depression has been presumably been caused by perhaps 20 friends who have visited us over the last few months, who we are not looking at, at all. So yes, you have to start one by one and question. And the deeper the depression, the more difficult it is, and yet that is our task.

Sitter: Do you think, the first day that this low feeling hits you, maybe we could go back the last week and say something in the last week we were not looking at, of that first day? Or could it go back beyond?

It could go back beyond but presumably, seemingly it is a very light depression, it does happen in the near past.

Sitter: It could also be, when you say, "I don’t want to look" its when we very often make ourselves believe that its not bothered us, that we have kind of grown beyond it?

Of course, precisely that. Those are subterfuges that we use. Either that or I am too busy. I will deal with this at a future date, when my life is a little more organized, or this is not the right time, because there is too much happening right now. I will deal with it later not now. Or etc, etc.

Sitter: So when you say deal with it what are you really meaning? Do I have to sit with it and meditate over it?

Not at all. You need to first acknowledge that something is awry. Then you need to have the courage to start looking within. Then you introspect and it proceeds from there. Use all the tools you have, use all the help you have. But do not pin our hopes on that help. Sometimes the help maybe kept away by your friend. Which means at that moment you need to go straight here (points inwards). But sometimes you are allowed a little prod, spoke, support, smack from a friend, from a therapist. Or from those friends.

Sitter: The friend that you say comes in, is it a guide, a counselor, or just an energy being who are …….?

There is absolutely no limit on who you call. You call the most appropriate kind of being for your situation, and of that group of beings, the one who is free, and the most feels from himself , the most appropriate to work with your energies, will appear. It is a mutual exchange. Because in his help from you, you also serve a purpose in his learning growth.

Sitter: Will the issues be the same?

Not necessarily, not necessarily at all. But that person may need to learn a completely different perspective, even on that side. For example, non-judgmentalism. The issue you may pull him for is the one that he was most judgmental about on earth. And in service to you, he will learn non-judgmentalism. At other times, it maybe just expanded being, who have just devoted their spirit lives to service. Do you not have therapists, on your own realm? Do you not all council your friends at various times?

Sitter: So they use other people as our catalysts?

Yes.

Sitter: But what happens if I am irritable with Sohrab, and then Sohrab gets really mad at me? So then are there two friends at work? Or is there one friend working through Sohrab and me simultaneously?

No. Each will draw a friend for his or her own issues. They very rarely overlap. But they will work, with one another, from the other side, simultaneously on this particular issue, causing whatever provocation is needed for the two individuals. So they actually would get into what you would term a conference, and decide, what would be the best.

Sitter: So it’s actually not only your issue, individuated, but so many working as one.

You will see a reflection of this in the difference between the grid of the 3rd dimension and the 5th dimension. It’s the same expanded form, going to that way.

Sitter: (inaudible)

First of all, let’s not put the onus on them and say, "they are making you aware." Do not forget, that you have drawn that soul to you for your learning. You have employed the tuition master. And you are paying his fees. Now whether he uses a ruler on your knuckles, or harsh words, or a small slap, is his choice. But you have employed him willingly. So never forget that.

Sitter: What about friends who come to you in dreams?

I will answer this very briefly because this is a topic for a whole meeting, and we cannot go there today. Friends would come as part of this process, but for the most part the dream friends come for a more expanded purpose than this. I don’t want to go further than that today.

 

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