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2001.12.23

Yukteshwarji:

Om…..  Om


Pranaam bachhon!


Pranaam Guruji.


Kitnay bachhay yahan!


(Looking to his left to one of the visitors, Aniruddh)  Bahoot aagay jaayega – bahoot aagay jaayega- bahoot aagay jaayega.  

Aatay rehenaa mere bachhon, aatay rehenaa


Jub tuk yeh gagan, jub tuk yeh zameen , tub tuk tu hai tub tuk woh hain. Jub tuk yeh shareer, jub tuk yeh mun, tub tu bhi nahin tub woh bhi nahin. Tu mein woh hai, aur woh mein tu hain . Phir bhay kahaan?  Bhay to samaaiya hai iis shareer mein. Shankaa samayee hain toh bus yeh mun mein. Jub tuk yeh shareer hai, jub tuk yeh mun hain, tub bhi nahin aur woh bhi nahin.  Jub tuk gagan hai, jub tuk yeh zameen hai, tub tuk tu hain, tub tuk woh hai.. Pranaam bachhon.


Pranaam Guruji.



Sai Baba :

Sai ka Pranaam.

Pranaamji.

Aaj to meri kitni bacchiyan aayi hain.


(To Mehru) Kya bachhi toojhay pattaa thaa ki Sai ayegaa?


(Mehru) Haan, Baba.

Challo, Sai aa hi gaya.

Hum aaye aur aap nahin aaye. Yeh kaise hoga?


Jahan tu hai, wahan Sai hain.


Thank you Baba.

Jahan wo meri bachhi hai, wahan Sai hai Jahan yeh meri bachhi hai, wahan Sai hai
Jahan yeh meri bacchi hai, wahan Sai hai Sai ko to aanaa hi tha. Ab poochho kya kahe Sai?  Kooch poochhna hai?


(Mehru) Sub ko aashish deejyay.


Sai jub hriday mein hi rahataa hai, to aasheesh dena aur na dena ka savaal hi nahin ! Sai to hriday mein hai. Zarra dekho, hriday mein dekho. Kya Sai dikhai diya?  

Aaj Sai bahoot khush hai. Bahoot khush hai !


Sai ka   pranaam.

Pranaam ji.


Jade Fire:


Good evening children.


Good evening Sir.


Such wide smiles on your faces!!.

This is a happy occasion, Sir.

Why, my son, is this a happy occasion?

Because we are able to bring more and more people to you, Sir.

Son, if you are happy with this number, you will be ecstatic with the number that you will soon see.

My child is come. After a great tug of war my child has come. (To Scherry)

Today let us permit our visitors to decide upon what they would like to hear. What subject would they like us to speak upon?


(To Yezad) Son, please request the visitors to state their desire.


 Would anybody like to ask any questions on any subject?


Do not fear my children. This one you will know well, as the Jade Fire.

(Jimmy C.) Sir, we are told that there are many dimensions. We are living only in
one dimension and we don’t know how many other dimensions
there are. Could you
kindly tell us whether there are other dimensions and what are the other
dimensions?

What a marvellous question from one who has come to us to us for the first time. We would have expected this question from those who are regular.

We will talk on this, but dear children, this subject is not an easy one to assimilate.  If you have any doubts, please do not be fearful of asking.


Yes, dear one, there are several dimensions. You are aware of only three and that is why, dear ones, when you look around, you see all objects in their 3 dimensions. You see their depth, you see their width, and you see their breadth. You are not able to see beyond these three. Son, the 4th dimension is one that is merely a Gateway between the 3rd and the 5th.  And, dear ones, after every 3 dimensions, you have Gateways. Although these are given numbers as dimensions by our Guides when they speak to you, these are mere gateways into another aspect of the universe and they are not true dimensions at all. When you have lived completely in the 3rd dimension, the Earth decides to move on. At this stage, let me go a little away from this subject, to explain to our new visitors about the Blueprint of this Earth.


Dear ones, just as you are a Spark of the Divine Light, surrounded by physical embodiment, this great Earth of yours, is also a very large part of the Divine Light. As explained earlier, when the Divine Light decided to divide, some Sparks of this Divine Light took on physical embodiments, which you recognize as ‘Matter’. Light, my children, is ‘Energy’ and Matter is also only Energy.  Matter is formed when these same small particles of Light Energy, which you cannot even see, come together and vibrate at such high speeds, that they merge together, only giving you an ‘ILLUSION’ of form.  All forms that you see around you - take a look, dears – take a look at all the forms that you see around. You are seeing them all in 3 dimensions and you are seeing an illusion of solidity.  In truth, they are not solid at all.


When one moves from the 3rd into the 5th dimension, one can see that there is nothing that is solid. When the Earth took on this physical embodiment, the Earth as a large Spark of Divine Light, created its own ‘Blueprint’. In this blueprint, dear children, is charted out a course on the path of Evolution.  Each one, each Spark of Light, charts its OWN course of evolution, because remember dear ones, when the Divine Light divided, it did so, for ONE purpose only. In order to experience itself in all dimensions completely, and then to merge again. This experience each Spark of Light finds in its own way. Earth decided to
follow this path of evolution known as Free Will.  No, dear ones, not all Sparks of Light have free will.  The Earth is special and you who have decided to take birth on Earth you are special. The path of free will is a difficult path.  When there is no free will, my children, there is no "Veil of Forgetfulness". In other places, in other Universes, dear ones, forms of Light have complete recollection of their Source. They have nor forgotten. They do not have a ‘Mind’ which enables them to forget. You dear ones, do.  Your Mind enables you to put around you a veil of forgetfulness, so that you can exercise your own free will and choose to remember again or choose to forget.  Each one of you in this room, you are here because your soul has taken a decision to REMOVE this veil of forgetfulness and to remember again. Dear ones, I do not teach you anything, I only help you to remember which you already know. Just as you chart out your life course, (and when we are using the word life, dear ones, we are not looking at only one short lifespan. We are looking at your life as a Spark of Light, separate and yet so wonderfully united with the Divine Source.) the Earth too decided on a Blueprint and for millions of years the Earth has followed the blueprint. You will be surprised, that when the Earth first started on her course of physical evolution, there was only ONE dimension. Every thing, dear ones, on the earth appeared flat.  There was no breadth, there was no depth, there was no width. Very gently the earth moved to another dimension and today she and you together are in this 3rd dimension. But the time has come to move on.  The ‘Gateway’, my dear ones, will open in the year 2002. When this gateway opens, the 3rd dimension world will see a lot of upheaval.  The Earth will pass through her very first gateway. Passing through a gateway into a dimension, into a completely different part of the Universe, is not an easy process. Before the earth and you can go through this Gateway, all that lies within, all that you have carried in all your lifetimes, from the first to the 3rd dimension, must be discarded. And in this we can only guide you, because you and the Earth have opted for free will evolution. We can guide you, we can urge you, but we cannot take you there. The earth has already started on her process of discarding. She is discarding violence, she is discarding hatred, she is discarding all the negativity that she has taken into her being for millions of years. She has to leave this behind. You may wonder how Jade Fire is making a claim that the earth is discarding violence when violence is all around me. Little ones, that is how you discard negativity. You remove it from the depths of your being and you throw it outwards. And each Spark of light on this earth is doing just that. You see a physical manifestation of Anger and Greed and Violence all around you and there is a reason for this. When you remove this negativity and bring it out, you must not permit this negativity to spread unchecked. Dear ones, do not be trapped by the illusion that a thought is merely a thought.  Every thought of yours has its own energy. Every word has even more. Every action releases its greatest energy. In the process of discarding, when you discard your Stress, your Anger, your Fear, your Violence, your Greed, this energy stays all around you.  No more, dear ones, will this energy be taken in by the Earth as it was done in the past.  The earth is in her own process of removal.  This life form will now not take in the released negativity.  You must be responsible for what you release. "Inner Cleansing" is important for this reason and at this time.  As soon as you have released it, whether consciously or without any conscious intention, the negativity must be covered completely by a bright light that you must emit from your heart. What you release as Negativity, you must convert again into Love.  The more negativity that is released and discarded, and the more of this that is converted into Love, the easier will be your gateway into the 5th dimension.


The earth will move on, but unless each soul that is trapped in physical embodiment, unless each soul, can leave behind the trapping of the 3rd dimension, the gateway will not be opened. As more negativity is released and not converted into love, greater and greater disasters will manifest and more and more people will come back to our side.  Those who
come back to our side, will be taken through a process of cleansing on our side, if they so desire.  When they have been cleansed enough, the gateway will open for them.
Those of you who are being taken through various exercises by us for the removal of all your negativity and for increasing your vibrations, such souls will stay on.  The gateway will open for those souls and the transition will be made to the 5th dimension which, my son, is the dimension of your spiritual world. In the 5th dimension, my children, when you look around, you will again see that all forms will SHIMMER, all forms will VIBRATE.  No form will have a solid touch, nor will it look as though it is solid matter.
Now you will wonder, how can we survive in this 5th dimension, if everything vibrates? How can I sit upon a chair if it is not solid? You, dear ones, will not be solid.  You will also vibrate at such a high velocity, that you will appear as a ‘Being of Light’.  At present, you only have an intellectual knowledge that you are a Being of Light.   But in the 5th dimension, you will experience this Light within you and light within others. This dimension will be one, where your connection with your higher soul will transcend the veil of forgetfulness.


Son, I’m explaining the dimensions to you only from your earth free will point of view. In the 5th dimension the earth will still be very much present but the veil of forgetfulness will be thinner.  In the 5th dimension you will experience yourself in physical form, as a physical vibrating being of light, and simultaneously you will experience yourself as that part of the soul that is all-knowing and which has not taken physical form. The three dimensions will slip away. It will be a time of the earth’s cycle to renew herself again with love.  From the year 2012 the gateway to the 5th dimension will be wide open. Those who will stay on will guide the new souls into this 5th dimension. Your children are your guides into this 5th dimension. Each child gathered here is a potential guide, as are all your children, but we use the word potential.  These souls have taken birth for ONE purpose only; to guide the earth and the other life forms into the 5th dimension. But, as soon as they take physical embodiment they must also experience the veil of forgetfulness.  Each one gathered here has this responsibility.  You are very special – it is through YOU that your children have chosen to come here. It is through YOU, because it is through YOU that they expect this veil of forgetfulness to be lifted completely.  One thing is certain. Their veil of forgetfulness is not as thick as your own.  It is already a thinner veil but if you condition their minds, by making them believe in the illusion of the 3-dimensional world, you will be doing them great injustice.  Their potential as guides of the future may be stifled by conditioning.


When all go to the 5th dimension, the movement from the 5th  to the 6th and to the 7th will be gradual and easy. There are no gateways that you need to pass through.  In the 5th dimension your spiritual link with your Higher Soul will be complete.  In the 6th and the 7th dimensions this link will be used for expansion of your self as a soul.  Now comes a beautiful part. In the 7th dimension you expand yourself so wide, that you are able to experience completely, the physical, the etheric, the mental, the auric, all your bodies; you experience yourself in completion and you can ‘at will’ , at will,  opt to become only physical, or physical as well as auric as you desire.  When this expansion is complete, you will pass from that wonderful gateway of the 8th  and you will enter the 9th dimension, when you will DIVIDE.  Just as the original source divided, just as the earth was just one of its luminous sparks, and then the earth divided and you were just one of its luminous sparks, you, dear ones, you will divide.  And in your division you will expand.  In that 9th dimension, there is no form there are no words. You can divide into as many parts as you desire and you can become all that you desire. The 8th gateway is even more difficult to enter.  Only those sparks of light that have left behind all baggage from all other past dimensions, those sparks that have reached a purity and a glow that makes them shine bright, will move on to the next dimension, till they  reach the 14th dimension.  You have expanded and divided in all your vastness, you then merge and become the Divine Light.


We explain these dimensions to you from a spiritual point of view but as we have told you so   often, there is no spirituality without science and Science is nothing but spirituality.  Therefore, dear ones, as the gateway is opened, spirituality and science will merge.  In the 6th and the 7th dimensions the merging is so complete, that there are no words like spirituality and science.  There is only one word and that word is ‘Light’. Science expands its knowledge so vast that it is able to see not only the limitations of its 3-dimensional scientific world knowledge, but the science that is all around you.  No scientist is not spiritual.  Oh yes, he has been conditioned to remove from his area of conscious thought any knowledge of divine light, any knowledge of soul. But he has been able to remove it only from his realm of ‘conscious’ thought. He is a scientist and he discovers and makes inventions because of the realm of ‘super-consciousness’ is still very alive within him.  And so as you evolve spiritually, science will make great leaps and in the higher dimensions words will lose their significance completely. Thought energy will be bound by scientists who will lead you into training this thought energy to become a very focused energy pathway. At present the pathway of thought energy is dispersed. That is the reason why telepathic messages do not reach other minds. You must train your thought energy to focus itself around a very narrow pathway. When thought energy is channeled along this narrow pathway and not permitted to disperse, you do not need words; and when there are no words there are no misinterpretations, there are no incorrect understanding. But words will still be present and this will be a wonderful because you will have once again a free will choice every moment to communicate through thought or word.

Now let us look at the emotional side of these dimensions. In the third dimension the emotion of fear seems to have overtaken the emotion of love. And this must be so, because once the soul enters into the gateway into the 5th dimension, there will be only emotion, dear ones, and that will be the emotion of love. There will not be an emotion of fear and all other feelings; anger and greed and what you call hatred, all, all, dear ones, jealousy, envy, all arise out of only one emotion and that is fear. Before the Earth and you can move through this gateway into the 5th dimension, love must overcome fear and leave it behind. Far is the burden of your 3rd dimensional world and if you recall what we have said, you have to leave this burden behind. We will again go a little bit off this subject because we think it is important for each one of you to understand that it is easy for love to overcome fear. It is the most difficult task that your physical mind will set you. Every time, a jealous thought arises in your mind, every time a judgement is passed from your lips, every time a hand is raised in anger, Fear will win.  But if there is a true desire within you, children, no, not only an intellectual desire, but a true desire within you to overcome fear , every jealous thought, every harsh word, every angry action will instantly be replaced by love. How will you do that?  Slowly at first and soon it will become not your second nature, but it will be, as it really is, your true nature.  When you leave this room and someone comes in your way and cuts your car off in traffic, do not put your head out and shout, do not let an abuse pass your lips, do not even let irritation cross your mind.  Instead, at once thank that person, for having given you the opportunity to exercise your love and cover that person with love. When you reach home and your child turns to you and says something which you do not wish to hear, do not permit an even more harsh tone to come of you. . . Do not look down upon that child.  Instead, once again thank your child for again giving you an opportunity to exercise your love. Cover your child with love and embrace your child.  Think, dear ones, how many times in a day will you get such opportunities?  There will be numerous ones and initially (no, we are not naïve and we do not expect that you will do this at every given opportunity) you can set your own goals.  Why not start from today, from this moment? Set a goal, that for the next 15 days, you will take only 3 opportunities during the day, to exercise your love.  Do not set very difficult goals for yourself. Set easy ones; reach them, and then move on to more and more difficult ones.  And soon, dear ones, you will come to a day when this beautiful gateway will be opened in front of you and you can walk in, without even a
conscious thought.


In the 5th dimension, there is no Fear, there is no anger, there is love but you have not yet reached the purity of love of the 7th dimension.  In the 5th dimension, your love will again be of a dual nature.    You will have a love of the spiritual physical being that you are and you will also experience the divine love in the connection between you and your higher soul. Through the dimensions from 5th to 7th any emotional aspect is merely an attempt to remove the duality and come to the point of unity.  It is when this point of unity is reached completely and the physical spiritual being experiences no physicality even in its physicality, it is then that the 8th door will open. There is yet another difference in the higher gateway and the lower gateway. The 4th dimension gateway opens for all at one time.  And that is why there is universal upheaval.  The 8th gateway opens as and when each light form is ready. There is no universal upheaval.  There is no personal upheaval.


Are there any questions?


Sir, you spoke about the 14 dimensions. Have they any relation to our 14 chakras?


Son, you are only AWARE of 14 chakras but there are so many more.  And no, my son,
these dimensions do not have any relation to these chakras.  Your chakras are related to your auric bodies not to the universal dimensions.


Sir, you spoke about a particular dimension where the spark of light further divides Sir.  But doesn’t it take it further away from merger?


Has the divine light gone further away from itself by dividing? No, my child.  The purpose of division is to enrich your evolution with numerous experiences all at once. The purpose of division is to speed up your process of final merger.


Sir, one more point I would like to ask you. Sir, people like you, if I may use that word would be on what level?  I mean does the entire race move together or how would it be?

No, my son. Although yes, on a very large universal level, all move together, each soul still has its own path of evolution.  When you talk of us, you are now looking at, dear one, on a personal level, not on a larger universal level.  On the larger universal levels, we move with you, but on personal levels also, there is a movement. And these are known as planes.  When you look at a movement on a universal level, these are dimensions.  As the soul moves higher up in its evolution on planes, it can move within dimensions. It need not be trapped in one.  So my child, Ascended Masters like us, can move very freely through the gateways because our personal movement has gone on and on.


And do not, dear ones, do not ever, ever think of us with reverence and awe. We are you. Several, several, several years ago, we were at this same wonderful spot where you are standing. When you look upon us with reverence, you break the link between your souls and our spirit. We do not need reverence.  Reverence and awe you pay to only one spark of light and that reverence and awe that you pay to that one spark of light is the light within you.


Sir, may I ask a question? Sir what do we mean when we talk about our 14 soul extensions and the 144 soul extensions of our monadic family?


Child, this question does not pertain to universal dimensions. This question pertains to personal soul movements. When you have passed the various planes and you come to the 7th plane of merger the soul then expands itself and once again experiences itself on all the high planes as well as the lower ones. It does not take birth on the lower planes again. Do not misunderstand that . But it is essential that it must experience all so that it must remember all experience and then moves on. The soul evolution goes on and on and on. The numbers are mere words that you use. What you are looking at is the final movement when the divine light (pointing to within the heart) and the Divine Light (pointing upwards) merge. This Divine Light does not descend to merge with yours but your divine light ascends to merge with that.

Sir, when we move through into the higher dimensions is it possible that parts of our soul extensions or monadic family are already there?

Child, this question needs to be answered very gently because once again it is a very complex subject. But, before we do that, is there anyone who desires to ask any more questions about the dimensions?

Sir, as we move on from the 3rd to the 5th dimension will there be an actual awareness that we have moved on?

Yes, there will be a complete awareness because all around you, you will experience a difference from the 3rd dimension. So, yes, there will be a complete awareness. And this must be, my child. You have undertaken a path of free will choice. We cannot take away that awareness from you.

Now we will take up this child’s (Roxanne) question. This child wishes to know (because we can see that there are some who have not understood her question) if parts of your own soul have already divided in the past and exist individually and yet unitedly with you. Now, for this question to be answered you must understand, dear ones, that although the universal dimensions of the 9th have not yet been reached, some souls in their own paths of evolution have moved so far on their planes that their personal merger with the light is very, very close. These souls have divided already and exist simultaneously. But, my dear child, to your question which the crux of which is, do they exist in the 3rd dimensional world, the answer is NO.

Thank you, Sir.

Sir, you spoke about fear, jealousy, hatred and so on and that they arise in the mind. Does this not boil down to the fact that we should have more control over the mind?

Have no control over the mind.

This is one of your trick replies, Sir. (All laugh)

Have no control. Son, as a parent, when you attempted to control your children, what did you get in return?

Stubbornness.

Do I need to say more? But when you allowed them to blossom I the way they desired, what did you get?

Love, Sir.

Do not control your mind. Son, in order to control the mind (now again you will say that this is my trick question) what do you need? You need the mind. Do you control with your body, do you exercise control with your mind or does the soul desire control? How do you control? Do you not always use your mind? Then, how will you use your mind to control your mind?

Yes, Sir, that is it exactly. How do I control my mind, when my mind controls me?

You do not control the mind. You thank the mind for being such a vital part of you. If not for your mind, dear one, your soul would not move on its path of fee will. Why do you wish to control a friend who is here to help you? Can you not permit your friend to flower on is own, and can you not take your hand and hold it out to your soul and allow your soul to guide you? In order to overcome anger you do not need to control your mind. You need your soul to guide you into experiencing love. In order to overcome fear, you do need to control your mind. You need your soul to guide towards strength. In order to overcome dishonesty you do not need to control your mind. You must permit your soul to guide you towards the spark of truth.

But, doesn’t the mind sometimes overcome the soul?

It will. It has been conditioned to do so. It has been conditioned in this manner so that the veil of forgetfulness can be yours. We cannot repeat enough times, dear one, you, you have opted for the soul path of free will and the mind is the only friend that you have who will take you on this path of free will. It will put obstacles in your way. Son, if the road is straight and you have to take no turns, how will you exercise your free will? Is it not when you come to a cross roads that you have to make a decision? Your mind gives you these cross roads. It does nothing else. But you misuse your mind. The mind was never meant to master you. You have given it your strength; you have given it your power. It is when you come to a crossroad you wait. It is at this crossroad that one must look at the soul. You have permitted you mind to take over. And your mind, dear one, will take over only in the way it has been conditioned to. Suicide, dear ones, is the one great crossroad that the mind places before those who have opted for this road. Free will choice must be made. If a choice is made with a conditioned mind suicide will result. What has the mind been conditioned to do? It has been conditioned to look upon you as a physical being. Remember the task of the mind is to put upon you a veil of forgetfulness. This veil does not readily permit you to look beyond your physicality into your spirit. In order to lift this veil it must be a free will choice. The moment you walked in though this door, dear ones, you exercised this choice. You now have this veil in your hands. You can either not lift it and turn your back upon meetings such as this, or you can let it fall away completely. The mind is trained to be self-absorbed. When the mind looks only at its physical, when the mind recognizes only the physical pain, when the mind does not permit you to take that one stride and transcend physicality, sometimes this veil of forgetfulness results 8in suicide. And what is even more sad is that when a soul has been unable to transcend the veil of forgetfulness and resorts to suicide, when it returns, and it must, to physical embodiment, the veil of forgetfulness will be much thicker than before. Remember children, with every lifetime the veil gets thinner. A soul having chosen suicide out of free will, will not retard in its growth towards evolution. It will stand still. What you incorrectly consider as a regression is really a thickening of the veil of forgetfulness. Many of you at some time in your life will come to this crossroad. If you do not start to exercise your love everyday, there is a danger that your mind will win this final battle.

Sir, what about suicide bombers?

Suicide bombers, my child, have even more lessons to be learnt. When a suicide is undertaken for personal reasons the soul builds up tremendous karmic links with itself and with those it has left behind in pain. Suicide bombers not only build up huge karmic links with themselves but they build up so many karmic links with so many. Very often, dear one, those who opt for very, very difficult lifetimes, have in their past done grievous harm to many. They undertake to experience the same grief or they may undertake to surrender all in physicality and devote their spirit to the dissemination of knowledge or love or service. The path is chosen by the soul.

Sir, but is it not possible that souls may undertake these missions to teach the rest of humanity lessons?

Child, all, all experience is a lesson to all humanity because each one of you is an extension of one light. And therefore you must dovetail. But, although you are right that in some cases this is true, very frequently it is not a chosen path in the blueprint but a free will choice made by the soul in its physicality.

Go in Light.

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