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07.07.2002 

Subjects explained:

All Inner Circle Members are now ‘Core Group’ and visitors are invited to join the Inner Circle subject to Sohrab’s acceptance / ‘Core Group’ (ex Inner Circle) meetings once a month as usual and Core Group-cum- Inner Circle Meetings will be every 3 months /Message for Sohrab/ ‘Luminous’ energy fields of our seven bodies corresponding to the seven veils of Forgetfulness, expansion out of our physical to evolve is a conscious ‘decision of Will’ - every negative thought or word  brings you back  into the physical energy field and then again it has to be  a choice of will  to  expand yourself  / Not only humans but even plants and objects have a non-physical state (energy fields) /Syrus has evolved so very fast / Sohrab has a new task at Core Group meetings /We extend the energy fields by conscious ‘will-decision’/ Energy fields have no connection to gravity and our seven bodies are in same dimension, but their influence and power felt in others  / Light energy in its creative aspect is only pure female. The highest order of cosmic hierarchy is female! The male energy is a vital arm of this order and in our 3-D world, male energy is considered superior / Even though  male energy is attributed to God there are many cultures present today, which call it only Divine Consciousness  / Our spirals are our energy field/We cannot re-write our blueprint but the one main pillar of EVERY blueprint is Ascension – spiritual development/Channelling is not a path of ascension, has no place in spiritual development/We can access past life knowledge by going to many such meetings, reading from many mediums not just one/We can access Higher Soul energy by living in constant awareness that we are not only the physical

 HLM :

He called Sangeeta and gave her his energy. Then he blessed everyone and left.
 

Jade Fire :

Good evening children.

Good evening Sir.

Son (to Sohrab) there are some newcomers who are confused about how this meeting will be conducted. Please inform them.

Right now?

Sir nodded

This is Jade Fire who is Niloufer’s Guide, who will be speaking through her. He generally asks anyone in the room for a topic to be discussed. Syrus will be coordinating the questions, so if you have a topic please raise your hand and Syrus will take these questions. Jade Fire will then discourse for a while after which it will be an open question- answer session. We then close with a few prayers according to the Format of the Meeting.

What this child has not told you is that he is our leader. You may address queries to him. We have often mentioned in the past that this child is only the Medium. It is this son of ours (Sohrab) who is the Leader. He is not only the Leader of this Circle, but the circle in Pune and all other Circles that will be formed in the future.

Thank you Sir.

At present his task is simple but in the future, his task will be of vital importance.

Son, all members of the Inner Circle are now ‘Core Group’ members. We had promised this. We are now throwing open the membership of Inner Circle, to those who desire to join. Those who desire must approach the Leader and the Leader’s decision on this will be final.

Sir on what basis do I accept or reject?

You must ensure that their attendance at meetings is regular. You know, son that we have not made it essential to attend every meeting, but there must be regularity. Those who have attended our meetings here for less than two months cannot still be part of the inner circle. That is the only criterion.  After their admittance, my son, (this must be for all members) if you find that regularity is not being adhered to, ‘Core Group’ members will once again be asked to step out of Core Group to Inner Circle. And Inner Circle members will be asked to step out.

Yes Sir.

There must be a dedication, a desire to grow. It is for those that the ‘Core Group’ and Inner Circle are formed. For those my son, who wish to expand their knowledge and wisdom, our meetings are thrown open to all. But when the desire goes beyond knowledge, to a ‘living in awareness’ we welcome them into our Inner Circle.

A word to all our Inner Circle members (the old inner circle):

Your growth has been noted. And the Masters are joyous to find that you have been working, each one, to coming closer to resolutions, to diminishing this distance between your Egos and Self and each one in their own way has done the work of Light Worker. Your vibrations have risen enough so that you are all now part of this Core Group. We had not started working on this Core Group because the disappointment in the hearts of some had made us decide to delay the process till all were ready, so that all as a group could meet together. And now that you are, son (to Sohrab) Inner Circle meetings will now become ‘Core Group’ meetings. And once in every three months the Core Group and the Inner Circle will meet. Core group (ex Inner Circle) must meet once a month as they have been doing. The Inner Circle members of the other group (Pune) may attend the Core Group meetings but they are not part of Core Group, my son.

Yes, Sir

We are now ready for your questions.

Sir, last time we discussed about grace and miracles. I want to know if ‘grace’ can change cornerstones.

Sir shook his head to say ‘no’.

Sir, could you talk about ‘luminous energy fields’?

Little one, we will speak of Energy Fields. All are luminous. They have to be, isn’t it, because what you emit is only ‘energy of light’? But we understand why you used that word. So let us first explain to you Energy Fields and then we will clear this misconception that some energy fields are luminous and others are not. Each one in this room is aware that every Being has seven bodies, of which the densest is the physical. The seven bodies, if you wish to look at it from a 3-dimensional perspective, expand outward with the centre being the physical. The truth really is, that the bodies ‘contract’ with the physical being the last. As the bodies move ‘inwards’, closer to the physical the vibration of each body decreases and its denseness increases. We will not discuss the seven bodies at present, because that would mean a long discussion all of its own. But we will say this. The ‘first body’ is in closest contact to the Spirit Self that you are and to which you have a constant link, the first body is the closest. Its vibration is very, very close to the vibrations of your Higher Self. Its luminosity is almost akin to your own Light. If you could view that ‘body’ you would not really be able to see any shape and yet it would seem to have some ‘boundary’ which keeps together the Light Energy. As you come closer to the physical, the bodies take on shapes that are more and more regular. If you recall, we mentioned to you when we were discussing the seven Veils of Forgetfulness, that you have five veils of the senses and the two veils of soul memory and conditioning.  Each veil is attached to one body. The soul memory is attached to the first body.

We will discuss the bodies sometime in the future, when the Group wisdom has come to a level when the knowledge will not be completely abstract.

As each veil needs to be formed, the ‘energy field’ of each body is gradually ‘condensed’, where the particles of energy are not as far apart, where the attraction between the particles gets stronger. This continues till the physical, where the energy field is most condensed and the attraction between particles so strong that they ‘cohese’. Are we very abstract?

No Sir.

With the completion of the physical, the last veil of conditioning comes down. The Conditioning veil of forgetfulness is attached to the Physical. Due to the denseness of the bodies, the particles of energy are unable to have free play. And energy fields get smaller in diameter around the body with this ‘condensation’. What is very often mistaken as the complete energy field of a Being, is really seen as only the physical body energy field and sometimes extending to the 2nd body energy field. That is why this child used the term ‘luminous’. The more you live in the ‘now’ and the ‘here’, the more you live in the ‘awareness’ that you are not only the physical, but you are in fact the physical and other bodies and Spirit Self all combined into one. The more you live in the awareness that it is the physical body that is essential, only in order to help you to remember that which you studied, that which you learnt, that knowledge which is present in you as Higher Self,   the more this ‘awareness’, the greater will be the expansion of your awareness beyond just the physical.   In order for the energy field of all bodies to be seen, there must be a conscious decision to move outwards.   It is your will that manifests as energy fields that can be seen; not by all, but certainly by those who are more sensitive. When the Will has extended far beyond the physical and when energy fields of bodies closer to your Higher Self are manifested, the luminosity increases.

Darkness is not a real thing. It is the densest cohesion of light particles. That is why we have often said, there is no dark. There is only Light. Because the energy fields of the ‘outer bodies’ - should we use that term - has freer play of light energy particles, the intensity of the Light is greater. And in some who have been able to ‘by Will’ extend themselves, this will appear as a large expanse of Light around the physical. This is not only relating to the physical and to human beings. Even Plants have their own ‘bodies’. Yes, different from yours. We ask you to do an experiment if you wish:

When you have a very healthy plant, do not touch it, but release the anger that you have in a violent gesture to the plant; stop short of physical contact. The plant will die soon. If you have a plant, which is not very healthy, stop short of physical contact and around the plant give soothing touches of love and comfort, of healing and joy and the Plant will revive. The same is true of all living forms.

And the same is true of ‘all objects’! Son, (to Yezad) if there is a Clock that does not work, (Laughter) there is no need for physical touch. All you have to do is to heal its bodies that are non-physical.

(Syrus) Sir, his whole day will go in that Sir, with all the clocks he has!  (more laughter)

The more ‘success’ he has, little one, the more this little one will move away from Ego self.  Because he will realise that the physical is of the least importance. Many of you have asked your Angels and Helpers to help in the repairing of various appliances. Do you think that the physical is ever touched? Why do we find it easy to communicate with you through your Computers? We do not touch that machine at all.  All we need to do, is to work with the machine   in its  non-physical  state.

Could we also do that Sir?

You must do that.

Each energy field that you create by ‘will’ will help you and those that are around you. If you could see with the physical how the energy fields change – yes I am aware you want to - you would find that   every negative thought or word brings you back into the physical energy field and then again it has to be a choice of will to expand yourself.  That is why you find that you seem to go through ‘phases’ of ‘living in awareness’ and then somehow…..

‘Slip back’ …..

Not only do you ‘slip back’ but you find it difficult to again  move into  that awareness, because  you  are  unaware  that  a ‘decision of  will’ is  required  by  you  to move  out  from physical energy field.  Those who live in constant ‘awareness’, their energy fields are large and extremely luminous because by will they have extended themselves so far where the play of light energy is allowed ‘freedom’. With this freedom comes greater intensity of light that you term ‘luminosity’.

Although this was not part of her question, we will extend the answer to our world where the physical does not exist. The physical is substituted by soul that was embodied but now is disembodied, but has not yet completely merged with Spirit Self.

Let us explain the process of merging. When Soul breaks free from physical, it reaches after a period of rest to its rightful plane of evolution. If you recall, we had told you, that every Soul must go through a Chamber in which the Soul is alone and yet never completely lonely or abandoned. Our Love and Light surrounds that soul. In this Chamber the Soul reviews first its blueprint and then how far its blueprint was fulfilled. It is made to experience every feeling that it had felt and it is made to experience every feeling that another experienced due to this Soul. My little one (Kaushal) had called it a ‘chamber of horrors’. It is not. But when a Soul feels all that another felt due to its words, actions, thoughts, the Soul for the first time realises the magnitude of every inter-personal relationship, however distant or close it might be. This soul takes the place of the physical body and as the Soul begins its process of re-learning it moves and expands itself outwards, till it finally merges with Higher Soul. We will not go into the energy fields beyond that.

When we as Masters have to reach the Medium, we will access not the physical being of the Medium, but the mental body, that extends far beyond. Those who are Counsellors and Helpers and Guides who are in the process of their own ascension, are able to come closer to the physical. The vibrations of Masters have to be lowered even to reach the ‘Mental’ and it is not possible for us to lower them further, as this would create great conflict and agitation in our own light fields and that is why Masters initially use Counsellors and Helpers and Intermediary Guides who help the individual being to make ‘will decisions’ to expand beyond that which is dense. Any one who is able to channel a higher entity has already made the decision to expand.

Now my son here (Syrus) is thinking that ‘maybe I cannot communicate because I haven’t made the decision’ or ‘maybe the decision is from my Mind?’  Now his Mind is our open book. (Laughter) We enjoy reading it because it is a work of ‘fiction’.  (Hearty laughter) No my little one, every ‘will decision’ does not have to result in communication with our world. It does not have to result in a conscious communication with our world. And for my son, because the process is not conscious, he believes that it is not happening.

Is it happening Sir?  (More laughter)

Now do you understand why we call it a work of fiction? (Hearty laughter)

Yes little one, it is happening. Re-write this book now with the truth of your Spiritual evolution. There is only one chain that you still need to break free from: DOUBT!  Believe and it will not be Ego my little one.  Believe that you have attained in a short time progress that many others take ‘two lifetimes’! You have attained so much of your blueprint plan and my little one, in your blueprint you chose not to channel. Are you clearer and more at ease?

Yes Sir.

We assure you all it will be only for a short while!  (Laughter)

He is our dear one, but always doubtful of himself, as of course, are these dear sons of mine (Yezad and Sohrab). And now we will ask this son (Sohrab) to do a task that will bring up all the fears in him and then he will stop laughing. At every Core Group meeting, my son, you will take half the meeting. Initially, not as a moment channelling, but two days before the meeting you will sit by yourself and we will make you write and that ‘inspirational writing’ will be given to the Group and discussed by you. Your doubt has to be removed too and it is more important, because you have made a ‘cornerstone decision’ to work with the Masters.

We will now take your questions.

Sir, you have actually answered it, but the thing is, I need to know how you extend the energy fields. How do you do it by ‘will’?

Little one I have answered this question indirectly. We mentioned that every negative thought, word and deed instantly brings you back into the physical energy field.  A conscious decision to merely live in the awareness of your being as physical and non-physical of which physical is only a small part – and then implementing and practicing that decision, is a will-decision to expand. It might be useful to make a review of every day before you sleep and to find out if you have implemented your decision every moment. What you will find initially is that every day you will have to make a decision again. But then, the day will start multiplying and you will be joyous to find that you have to take the decision at longer intervals. And then, my dear one, comes a time when the decision is not a conscious process at all. It has become part of your very cell information. It is then that the Light is at its most luminous.

Sir I have two questions. The first one is when you talked you about energy fields. Are they similar to gravity fields or can the gravity fields have an effect on our energy fields?

None at all. If the energy fields were influenced by gravity my little one, the non-physical world would not be able to expand. The gravity fields only work upon that which is physical.

Second question is, the seven bodies you mentioned, are they in the same dimension in which we are or are some of them in different dimensions?

Same dimension and yet being in the same, their influence and power is felt in others.

Sir may I ask a question, one or two? These bodies that you speak of, do they also include the material and the causal bodies that we speak of? And these light energy fields that in some can expand, is it the same as what you call ‘aura’?

Little one, the ‘aura’ that many are able to see, as I explained earlier, is often limited to the physical energy field or goes beyond a little to the 2nd body light field.  Very rarely is ‘aura’ the term used for light fields of extended bodies.

Sir you spoke of the seven veils of forgetfulness but it struck a chord in me in a story or fable we have heard about the seven veils of Salomi – does it have any bearing or relationship with this sort of spiritual thinking?

Little one, those veils and all fables and legends have a symbolism and a truth that is needed to be seen. Many have mistaken the symbolism of the veil that is used in certain cultures. The veil is used by the women of the culture. There is a reason. Light energy in its creative aspect is only pure female. The highest order of cosmic hierarchy is female! The male energy is a vital arm of this order. The male energy is the one that actually implements and brings about and manifests that which has been created and desired to come into manifestation by Female Energy.

Now some of you are thinking erroneously. You are aware that many Guides and Masters reveal themselves to you as Masculine Energy. That is a deliberate choice, because Light has no energy, it is neither male nor female. As Light Beings ascend, as they move into the different offices of Cosmic Hierarchy, they change their form and Light Beings present themselves to you as Male energy because the 3-dimensional world is very largely dominated by the idea that male energy is superior to female. If I had presented myself to this child as Female Energy, this child would not have accepted me. This child has always respected male energy and for a large part of her life, rejected the female energy that was within her. It has only been with her own ascension process that now the female and the male are able to find a balance.  And that is true with many.

Sir may I ask something? Why is it that over these millions of years God has always been referred to as ‘he’ and not ‘she’?

No, little one, you are wrong. It is only in cultures that you know of, that God has been associated with male energy. But there are many, many cultures present till today, who have not forgotten their roots with the ancient ones who will call the Divine Consciousness neither ‘she’ nor ‘he’.

What should it be called Sir?

Divine Consciousness! Light. How can Light have ‘gender’?  Remember what we have said. As Light Beings progress upwards – and we are repeating this – and opt to work in certain offices of Cosmic Hierarchy, they change their form, to make either male or female more predominant as is required by that office.

Sir I want to ask you, once you had spoken to us about ‘spirals’. Now those who are aware of the spirals or experience them, can they have any connection with energy fields around them?

The spirals and spirals of energy. So of course they have connection - they are the energy fields.

Sir, when you look at the blueprint of the soul, is it possible for us physically to re-write our blueprint?

How often my dear little one (Jimmy) has wanted that!

So it is all pre-determined Sir?

Cornerstones are pre-determined. Only Cornerstones are pre-determined.

So my spiritual evolution is therefore limited to what I said or did?

We urge you to read what we have earlier spoken of blueprint and it will become clearer to you. But remember one important thing. Every blueprint has one main pillar, around which all cornerstones are formed. And that main pillar is ascension, what you call spiritual development.

Do we have to channel with the masters, or have gurus and then realise or we ourselves are the masters equal to them as you?

Each is equal. Channelling with a Master is not a path of ascension just as little one, knowledge of reading and writing is not essential for a man to be intellectual and wise. Masters will only help and guide and suggest. Channelling is not at all of significance in the process of ascension or spiritual development. Do not be mistaken my little one, to think that Mediums are on a process of ascension in this lifetime. Channelling comes easier to some than to others only because it has been something that they have been used to in the past. A Medium can limit the process of personal development as easily as any who is not a medium. In fact, the one battle that most Mediums have to fight and which many, many Mediums lose, is the battle of Pride and Vanity; where the Medium begins to forget that the Medium is only an empty pipe! And not more important than an empty pipe. The water that flows through that pipe is often mistaken by the Medium to be the water that the ‘pipe originates’. And when this empty ‘pipe’ begins to identify itself with the water the pipe begins to get shallower and narrower and dirtier. So channelling has no place in spiritual development.

But you are coming through a channel?

The knowledge that comes through the channel is of importance not only for the channel but for all who desire to accept it as their truth. And once again, the words that come through do not have to be accepted as the truth.  Little one, the more mediums that you all hear, that you all encounter, the more you will realise and the more you will be able to discern between purity and the impurity that is the pipe itself. Again the words, little one, though pure may not be your truth and must not be accepted only because they are the words of a master! Knowledge must be accepted, only when that knowledge resonates with the truth that is within you.  The conscious mind has forgotten the truth of spiritual laws. But knowledge will resonate with the truth that lies deep within and that which is never forgotten. And if that knowledge does not resonate it must not be accepted.

Sir how can we tap or access knowledge or wisdom that we have gained in past lifetimes? If we want to draw on that, whatever we have studied or learnt for example in this lifetime – will it be forgotten in the next?

The easiest way for you to do this in a material dimension is to attend more such meetings with different mediums or to read that which has been channelled through different mediums. The more you do this, it is easier little one, to use the physical mind in order to help the truth that lies dormant within, to arise. And we urge you to do that. With the fifth dimensional world knocking at your door, Light has manifested into your world in several different ways for this truth to be expressed, revealed and spread. And we urge you, do not limit yourself to only one such meeting because then you limit yourself to the natural limitation of one medium.

The Divine Consciousness has made only us on this Earth Planet with a free will. And we are also bound by the limitation of this 3-D world Sir. That is where this conflict about doubt and belief arises. How do we overcome that Sir?

Why must there be doubt little one? When you took embodiment on this planet, you were in full awareness of free-will, you were in full awareness or the Veils, and you were in full awareness of the material dimensions. Why must there be doubt?  It is only your physical mind that doubts and you know that you have been able to move beyond the physical in many, many other areas.  You can do the same in this one.

Sir from time to time we experience that you are not there and our speech is of a kind that we don’t recognize our own vice - what do you call that ?

You call that ‘accessing Higher Soul energy’.

And how do you then get to have more of those experiences?

By living in ‘awareness’ constantly. By living in awareness that you are beyond the limitations of the physical because you have already experienced the moment of transcending those barriers.

Sir, is it not necessary to die physically to experience that invisible vastness that …….

Why do you wish to die to experience that which you wished to experience in physical? My little one, why did you take on the physical? You had a choice. You took on the physical because you wished to experience all that is limiting in the physical and to move beyond that. Why would you wish to die and forego such a wonderful experience of transcension? The joys of transmuting knowledge into wisdom in physical embodiment are beautiful to experience and it is those joys that make you aware that you took the physical, not only to experience the adversities that come with it, but to also experience its numerous joys.

Without the physical we cannot experience that?

The experience is different.

(Kaushal): Sir it’s not a question. I just want to apologise for
saying no for the meetings.

My little one, never apologise for that which has not caused hurt and harm. Remember my little one, when an apology like that is given, it comes out of the Ego Self of guilt. Do not limit yourself to the physical. Little one, our work is to be done. And it will continue. You have not disrupted it. Your house had to be blessed and it was. Are you guilty for that?

No Sir, but I said ‘no’ to you – I felt I was saying no to . . .. . .

Little one, you have to respect your being. And respect every decision that you make. And not cloud your decision with guilt. We are not going to take away the blessings!
(Hearty laughter)

Sohrab: Sir, you are always poking fun at Yezad and me for working from the head and not the heart but I am asking this question on behalf of a lot of others who have this trouble. How do we learn to work simultaneously with both?

Let me give you an example of how you work. When a hurdle comes in your path – both my dear ones – and we constantly refer to you both, to poke you into awareness – when a hurdle comes before you both, there is an instantaneous process of analysing – how, when, where, what – and the overriding large question ‘WHY’. When this process begins, the Mind begins to give you answers that are unable to transcend physicality. And when the answers are unable to transcend physicality, they seem to hold you into a tight grip of confusion. Are you with me?

Yes, Sir.

This grip becomes so tight that even if you desired the heart centre to send out its waves, the waves would be ‘rejected’. The next time a hurdle comes in your way, consciously stop the process of asking any questions, but one. "How do I respond to this hurdle as Soul?"  Soul, my son, is the perfect balance of Mind and Heart. Do not ask the why and what and where and who and how and when.  All that is required is a response. When the response forth comes, the question that your Mind will place will be automatically answered. Because you have already transcended the physicality and responded, the answer will be beyond the physical and therefore will not suffocate you.

Yezad: Sir, would that also apply to professional problems or professional decisions?

Do you become a different being, my little one, in your profession?

I always thought that the Mind has made me what I am professionally.

Do you really? (Laughter)  And of course your Blueprint and Soul purpose had nothing to do with it?

You are poking fun again! (Hearty laughter)

Y & S: Thank you Sir.

We will end the meeting here.

Be Light.

Jade Fire gave everyone his blessings.

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